BlackWater USA

[Triangle]

Who was it here on AO that they work/ed For BlackWater?

There's no need to post here, just PM me when you get a chance, please.
I've got a few questions, if that's alright.

[cowboy_00]

who are they.

I've always wondered about groups like these...along with what are considered "soldiers of fortune" how can they be used by the military and what are the laws concerning them.


always kind of confused me. (sorry for the bit of threadjacking)

[Armory]

It's really a tricky thing but most of the time they're are contracted by the Govnerment that they are fighting in so they have alot of basic rules to follow. I was interested in joining BlackWater for afew tours but don't have real military experience...

[Triangle]

I wish that I could remember their AO name.
Was it Recon by fire?
Blah.

[Steelrat]

I thought you were leaving?

[Steelrat]

always kind of confused me.

Like ethical issues do.

[geekwarrior]

Like ethical issues do.

lol........keep hounding him

[bentothejam1n]

http://automags.org/forums/member.php?u=10904

[Army]

I've always wondered about groups like these...along with what are considered "soldiers of fortune" how can they be used by the military and what are the laws concerning them.


always kind of confused me. (sorry for the bit of threadjacking)

Blackhawk, Dynacorp, SSR etc do NOT work for the US military. They are private contractors for private concerns. Often they work alongside US military personnel, but never for.

[cowboy_00]

Blackhawk, Dynacorp, SSR etc do NOT work for the US military. They are private contractors for private concerns. Often they work alongside US military personnel, but never for.

Do they still have to follow the Geneva Convention? are they different from regular military in anyway except they are contracted?

[Triangle]

Do they still have to follow the Geneva Convention? are they different from regular military in anyway except they are contracted?

The 1949, Third Geneva Convention (GCIII) does not recognize the difference between defense contractors and PMCs; it defines a category called supply contractors. If the supply contractor has been issued with a valid identity card from the armed forces which they accompany, they are entitled to be treated as prisoners of war upon capture (GCIII Article 4.1.4). If, however, the contractor engages in combat, he/she can be classified as a mercenary by the captors under the 1997 Protocol I Additional to the Geneva Conventions (Protocol I) Article 47.c, unless falling under an exemption to this clause in Article 47. If captured contractors are found to be mercenaries, they are an unlawful combatant and lose the right to prisoner of war status.

-Wikipedia

[cowboy_00]

so most all of them would be Mercs...like it was kind of assumed. but if they are unlawful combatants to begin with...then they never have to follow geneva convention protocols?

[IronCore]

so most all of them would be Mercs...like it was kind of assumed. but if they are unlawful combatants to begin with...then they never have to follow geneva convention protocols?

..umm is there such a thing as lawful combatants, like you say, "may I kill you?"
also which geneva convention are you referring to? the use of mustard gas?

[cowboy_00]

..umm is there such a thing as lawful combatants, like you say, "may I kill you?"
also which geneva convention are you referring to? the use of mustard gas?

well...what ive always thought was things like torture. but really i just dont understand the whole basis. and i guess the U.S armed forces are considered Lawful combatants? idk anything about it...thats why im asking people more intelligent than me.

[kruger]

And, as far as the Geneva Convention is concerned, only the good guys go by it. Do you think that the Taliban is really worried about what "rules of war" it breaks?