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  • Soopa Villain17
    beshemoths best friend
    • Jan 2005
    • 2393

    #1

    black powder?

    i just bought a replica 1851 confederate navy .44 from cabelas and the instructions arent very helpfull. can any1 explain to me black powder , how to handle it , how to load the gun , from what i understand if the ball isnt firmly seated against the powder i wont have a hand left. heres the gun, http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa...817&id=0006186
    my ao feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167490
  • behemoth
    SVSTC?
    • Nov 2002
    • 7750

    #2
    Originally posted by Soopa Villain17
    i just bought a replica 1851 confederate navy .44 from cabelas and the instructions arent very helpfull. can any1 explain to me black powder , how to handle it , how to load the gun , from what i understand if the ball isnt firmly seated against the powder i wont have a hand left. heres the gun, http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templa...817&id=0006186
    Trial and Error is your best bet.

    Also, feel free to keep the blackpowder stored anywhere, by the fireplace is fine, or near the ashtray...

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    • Pneumagger
      I like 'Mags.

      • Jun 2006
      • 3556

      #3
      why would you buy a gun that you have never used... out of curiosity. I mean... one that you have no clue how to load?

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      • Lohman446
        Useful posts: 7
        • Jun 2003
        • 9315

        #4
        VIDEO.... This demands video, at least your use of it.

        Go to a range and ask for help...
        "Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, nothing is going to get better. Its not" - Dr Suess

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        • Crighton
          Registered User
          • Apr 2003
          • 535

          #5
          I'm not sure it's safe to fire that being as blind as you are.

          http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ...0817&id=0006186
          1851 Confederate Navy, .44 Caliber Revolver and Starter Kit
          "Wath the Video"
          Cleaning Your Black Powder Revolver
          Loading Your Black Powder Revolver

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          • Soopa Villain17
            beshemoths best friend
            • Jan 2005
            • 2393

            #6
            Originally posted by Crighton
            I'm not sure it's safe to fire that being as blind as you are.

            http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ...0817&id=0006186
            1851 Confederate Navy, .44 Caliber Revolver and Starter Kit
            "Wath the Video"
            Cleaning Your Black Powder Revolver
            Loading Your Black Powder Revolver

            oh i didnt even see that. i orderd it from the catalog didnt even check the sight till now , cool thanks

            oh ya nice help behemoth you know everything
            my ao feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167490

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            • Warwitch
              Resident Skeptic

              • May 2006
              • 3176

              #7
              Originally posted by behemoth
              Trial and Error is your best bet.

              Also, feel free to keep the blackpowder stored anywhere, by the fireplace is fine, or near the ashtray...

              make sure its damp too

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              • tropical_fishy
                KART
                • Oct 2004
                • 1017

                #8
                Oh, for God's sake. Where are your parents? Do they KNOW you're buying guns?

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                • Altimas
                  Registered User
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 909

                  #9
                  Its black powder you dont even have to go through the ATF background check for that.
                  "If we aren't supposed to eat animals...why did God invent BBQ sauce?" - Army
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                  • Army
                    Moderator of DOOOOOOOOMMM!

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 5785

                    #10
                    Nice thing about BP revolvers, is that you cannot overload them. Too much powder, and the ball cannot be seated. A properly sized and seated ball, will have a tiny ring shaved off when you ram it. Give each cap a squeeze before you place it on the nipple, the slight bend will lock it on better, so they won't fall off under recoil.

                    Be sure to use enough grease to fully seal each chamber. Flashover (the flame from the first shot, flashes into the adjoining chambers, igniting one to all others) is not a pleasant experience. While rarely causing injury.....except to your formerly clean underwear......it is loud, smoky, very scary, and the recoil is tremendous. Fully sealed chambers will stop any flame from getting to anywhere it shouldn't.

                    FFFG Blackpowder, or "P" class Pyrodex is all you need. There are newer cleaner burning powders out there now, but they don't give the consistancy that Pyrodex or real Blackpowder does.

                    Get familiar with the pistol, 'cuz you will have to completely disassemble it after every outing in order to clean it well. Blackpowder residue is hydroscopic, meaning it absorbs moisture out of the air, leaving you with a black wet goo that will immediately rust the metal it is on. Lots of very hot water, some dishsoap, a toothbrush, and about 1/2 hour of elbow grease will get it plenty clean. Don't forget to re-oil all exposed steel after cleaning and drying it.

                    My old '58 Remington .44 was a blast to shoot. Full loads boomed off with authority, and rather accurately too. Long ago, I won a turkey at a local holiday shoot with it, beating out 4 other shooters.

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                    • Soopa Villain17
                      beshemoths best friend
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 2393

                      #11
                      Originally posted by tropical_fishy
                      Oh, for God's sake. Where are your parents? Do they KNOW you're buying guns?

                      im almost 20 , i dont live with either of my parents i can pretty much buy whatever i want and i dont care what they think. thanks for the help army i went to the gunshop next to my grandparents house and the guy explained everything to me real good , got me setup with everything i need even invited me to a black powder shoot sunday at a local gun club, sweet.
                      my ao feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=167490

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                      • Recon by Fire
                        Enimo Et Fide
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 1706

                        #12
                        I'd love to get an antique black powder gun but I think I will just wait and get a small cannon instead

                        I saw some beautiful muskets at Colonial Williamsburg, the gun shop there takes custom orders but they were too far backed up and not taking orders.

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                        • DeTrevni
                          Registered User
                          • May 2006
                          • 424

                          #13
                          I've got me the exact gun, and it's a blast to shoot. Once you get the hange of it, it really is simple to use.

                          Oh, and ALWAYS clean it after use, or the residue from the powder will kill it. And good luck with that! Cleaning that thing is a beast!

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                          • kruger
                            KRUGER GRIPS

                            • Jun 2004
                            • 1915

                            #14
                            I am not real familiar with black powder guns, but, isnt there a gun cleaning spray that you could use on it? I seem to remember that there was something called "gun scrub" or something like that. Been a while since I have piddled with guns.

                            If I remember, it was a non-residue spray that you hosed the gun down with and then just lightly oiled it after.
                            WOW, sigs. Havent seen these in a while here on AO.

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                            • DeTrevni
                              Registered User
                              • May 2006
                              • 424

                              #15
                              The thing about black powder is it gets everywhere. The residue is on almost every part of the gun. If you don't get in there and scrub it up, it could cause a problem. I'm skeptical of this "insta-spray..."

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