Scientology - an overview

[Desega]

Confronting the illusion in front of you is never comfortable. However, with time, patience, honesty, and hard work you can improve how you choose to accept reality; even change it.

Perhaps we should set up an audit session and see what is keeping you from seeing your reality as you choose.

I took both pills.

[bornl33t]

Triangle is correct. Even L. Ron couldn't believe what became of his book.

L. Ron lived a few miles from here. He laughed about how anyone could have taken his book for reality, as he often commented that he made it up as he went along.

L. Ron was a Sci-Fi writer...nothing more. That there are people out there who cannot seperate fantasy from fact, makes it easy for cultists to warp little minds.

So scientologists are just trekies?

[Steelrat]

The most entertaining part, for me, has been how the alien ships looked just like DC8s...except with rocket engines.

There's a sucker born every minute.

[DSR75]

There's a sucker born every minute.

And apparantly most of them live in California

[Desega]

[SCpoloRicker]

The most entertaining part, for me, has been how the alien ships looked just like DC8s...except with rocket engines.

There's a sucker born every minute.

Clearly, you have been influenced by the large volume of false information about Scientology available on the internet. Several individuals, having failed at reaching their goals within Scientology due to their closed minds, have taken it upon themselves to spread libel and slanderous comments about Scientology.

Most of the important documents and traditions within the church have not been published for public consumption. Take anything you have read from these hypocritical, closed minded individuals with a very, very large grain of salt.

People who wish to discredit the church often spout off about DC-8s, aliens, nuclear weapons, and other such nonsense that really has nothing to do with the core tenants of Scientology.

Not to mention, most 'traditional' religions rely upon far more far-fetched tales of origin, yet these utterly impossible, violent, man-enslaving institutions are not held to account. Yet Scientology, which exists only for people to better themselves and others, is constantly exposed to virulent, hateful attacks for no good reason other than for inflating the attackers feelings of self-worth.

Perhaps we can set you up with an audit Steelrat, and see if Scientology can help you expand your horizons and see the true potential in the system.

edit: you know, Desega, usually one looks for a connection to the topic at hand when posting amusing pictures on teh intartubes

[Steelrat]

Clearly, you have been influenced by the large volume of false information about Scientology available on the internet. Several individuals, having failed at reaching their goals within Scientology due to their closed minds, have taken it upon themselves to spread libel and slanderous comments about Scientology.

Most of the important documents and traditions within the church have not been published for public consumption. Take anything you have read from these hypocritical, closed minded individuals with a very, very large grain of salt.

People who wish to discredit the church often spout off about DC-8s, aliens, nuclear weapons, and other such nonsense that really has nothing to do with the core tenants of Scientology.

Not to mention, most 'traditional' religions rely upon far more far-fetched tales of origin, yet these utterly impossible, violent, man-enslaving institutions are not held to account. Yet Scientology, which exists only for people to better themselves and others, is constantly exposed to virulent, hateful attacks for no good reason other than for inflating the attackers feelings of self-worth.

Perhaps we can set you up with an audit Steelrat, and see if Scientology can help you expand your horizons and see the true potential in the system.

edit: you know, Desega, usually one looks for a connection to the topic at hand when posting amusing pictures on teh intartubes

Devils Advocate.

"They were imported. They were actually .. the trick was to shoot somebody, disable somebody, very often a needle into a lung and at the same time to hit him with frozen alcohol and glycol which preparation is guaranteed to pick up a Thetan. All they had to do was pick him up and put him in a refrigerator and they had him, boy. If he tried to exteriorize from the body, there he was, frozen.
And they threw 'em into collection points, boxed 'em up in boxes, threw 'em into space planes which were the exact copies of DC8's, the DC8 airplane is the exact copy of the space plane of that day. And, no difference, except the DC8 had fans, propellers on it and the space plane didn't."

http://sk.nvg.org/cos/speeches/DC-8s.mp3

[SCpoloRicker]

Case in point. You see, what Steelrat is doing is endemic of all criticisms of Scientology. Find a conflicting point, and then instantly jump to the conclusion that all is null and void.

[Jonneh]

I got jumped by some scientologists in my home town of Birmingham a few months back, they dragged me into their building and made me do some e meter tests, then told me that i was doing it wrong because i was gripping the paddles too hard, causing the machine to not work properly, they didn't seem to find anything wrong with this.
They then went on to say that there definately is a metaphysical soul type thing and we all have it, and that we can't possibly be completely material beings because in her experience, those who believe in a metaphysical soul type thing lead happier more fulfilled lives.
Then they asked me to take a personality test home, fill it in and drop it back to talk more, but instead i wrote THIS IS DUMB on it and left it in my room.

How do you like them apples?

[Triangle]

The real enemies are the Mormons guys.

[BD_Paintball]

so SCpoloRicker you believe in this garbage?

[bornl33t]

And make a crap load of money off of fake religions.

LOL I get it!

I thought I recognized that!

[bornl33t]

The real enemies are the Mormons guys.

But I like pepsi so their OK!

[SCpoloRicker]

so SCpoloRicker you believe in this garbage?

Personally I think "body thetans" are a full-of-shiat theory, but have to accept that if thetans exist this special impaired type of thetan might exist too, at least in some instances. I think Hubbard came up with this idea largely to account for why he looked in such rotten shape one day when he ought to be very healthy if he was such a potent juju weilding type person, so full of magic mojo after working so intimately with the deeper secrets of existence for so many years. He had previously acknowledged some rare cases in which more than one thetan might be holding onto and attempting to be in possession of a meat body (akin to demonic possession), but suggested such rarities were not a big issue, ordinary exorcism or other ritual could cope with it as it had in the past, and no special Scientology process would really be needed other than assessing why two intelligent people are in a fight as if in normal life in separate bodies, and the whole "body thetan" idea was pretty much a nonsequiter to his previous positions. His attribution of somatic pains and ills to some puny little being too terrified of being alone and yet too terrified of being spotted and thus subject to attack, as cause of unwanted events in a body inhabited by a much stronger being and to all other respects apparently under the stronger beings complete control, just doesn't add up to me.

[wjr]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong on this, but doesn't being a scientologist entail donating a whole ton of money to the church? Isn't there actually a donating quota that has to be met in order to advance into the upper levels of the church?