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  • jenarelJAM
    Club Coordinator
    • Dec 2004
    • 1611

    #1

    Rubik's Cube

    Well, I officially admit it. I have passed over to the dark side.

    My friend showed me how to start a rubik's cube sometime last week, and I'm hooked. I've spent hours learning different ways to solve it, but I can't seem to memorize the algorithms. There's like... 78 that I need to learn, I think, and I can't seem to keep more than five or six in my head. Anyone do this before? Got any tips on learning?

    Plus, I'm trying to find a new cube that has the adjustable screws. The only ones I've seen are all preset from the factory. I've greased mine, and it's much much better than it was, but still leaves something to be desired. It's not as smooth as I'd like, but feels a little bit sticky.

    /buy one, it's a great time-waster in history class...
    //Oh, and I timed myself last night, got 1:33.xx
    you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
    :shooting: :cuss:
  • Pneumagger
    I like 'Mags.

    • Jun 2006
    • 3556

    #2
    I don't know the algorithms, but you only need like 5 or 6. And they are not too many moves.

    you want tough? Get a Soduku Cube.

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    • bentothejam1n
      Support our troops
      • Oct 2005
      • 1428

      #3
      i think my friends use graphite to lube theirs

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      • 1337caesar
        Da 1337 Machine
        • Apr 2005
        • 238

        #4
        you only need 1 twist sequence. the rest is logic

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        • FooTemps
          HURRRR
          • Sep 2001
          • 6702

          #5
          my best time was 3x.xx seconds around 36. Since we were doing it with the second hand of a clock it wasn't very accurate except to the tens place.

          This time wasn't reproducible though since I got it by luck. My average is around 1.45.xx but that was 2 years ago. I don't even remember the algorithms to solve the cube anymore, haha.

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          • jenarelJAM
            Club Coordinator
            • Dec 2004
            • 1611

            #6
            Originally posted by Pneumagger
            I don't know the algorithms, but you only need like 5 or 6. And they are not too many moves.

            you want tough? Get a Soduku Cube.
            Actually, I can solve it consistently in under two minutes, but I'm wasting major time by having to use the same two algorithms 3-5 times to get the effect of one correct algorithm.

            I also took off the lithium grase I previously had on the cube today(washed all the little pieces), and put on silicone spray. I'm not sure I like it. I might need to switch back. I really need a looser cube...

            Graphite huh? I'll look into that. I've never heard of that on cubes before.
            you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
            :shooting: :cuss:

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            • FooTemps
              HURRRR
              • Sep 2001
              • 6702

              #7
              Originally posted by jenarelJAM
              Actually, I can solve it consistently in under two minutes, but I'm wasting major time by having to use the same two algorithms 3-5 times to get the effect of one correct algorithm.

              I also took off the lithium grase I previously had on the cube today(washed all the little pieces), and put on silicone spray. I'm not sure I like it. I might need to switch back. I really need a looser cube...

              Graphite huh? I'll look into that. I've never heard of that on cubes before.
              silicone spray will eat the stickers and they'll eventually fall off. that's why people use graphite if I remember correctly. also, don't always try to go fast. Sometimes take your time and try and figure out new algorithms and slowly try to cut moves off on certain sequences. usually it will take around 2 hours to find a new algorithm on your own and be proficient at using it at speed.

              What method are you using right now? If you're still solving in layers, you'll never break the 30 sec mark without luck.

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              Good Traders:
              Tunaman, K-villeplayer, Magman007, Mastersconi, Jon/xpm, Kenndogg

              My feedback if you've dealt with me, leave some...

              Fruitcat: it's what AO doesn't like.

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              • RogueFactor
                Registered User
                • Dec 2001
                • 633

                #8
                Man....this thread brings back childood memories.

                I got my first Rubik's when I was 7. This was during the Rubik's cube craze. Pop's gave it to me to play with, and was amazed when I solved it. Thinking I had cheated by taking out the squares and reassembling it, he scrambled it, and gave it back to me---but watched this time. When I solved it again, he went out and bought the book of solutions. I memorized the book in ~1 week.

                My fastest time at age 7 was 1:3x . It's been over 20 years, so I am unsure of the exact time.

                Never went so far as to grease them. Never even thought of that back then.

                Cool stuff. Good thread.

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                • RogueFactor
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2001
                  • 633

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jenarelJAM
                  There's like... 78 that I need to learn, I think, and I can't seem to keep more than five or six in my head. Anyone do this before? Got any tips on learning?
                  For me, it was about pattern recognition and repetition. I know Im making it sound simple, even though it isnt.

                  You gotta get to the point where its reflex. See the pattern, and you automatically start turning---little, if any thinking at all. All subconscious.

                  Do something more than 25+ times consecutively, and you are cognitively building this reflex by repetition.

                  Thats the best advice I can give you.

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                  • jenarelJAM
                    Club Coordinator
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 1611

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FooTemps
                    silicone spray will eat the stickers and they'll eventually fall off. that's why people use graphite if I remember correctly. also, don't always try to go fast. Sometimes take your time and try and figure out new algorithms and slowly try to cut moves off on certain sequences. usually it will take around 2 hours to find a new algorithm on your own and be proficient at using it at speed.

                    What method are you using right now? If you're still solving in layers, you'll never break the 30 sec mark without luck.
                    Well, I took the cube all apart again and seriously washed it. I think I got near 90+% of the grease off it, and amazingly, it started turning better unlubed than with the silicone grease. Then I took out one cube, put a small amount of lithium grease back in, and it's working pretty well now.

                    I started learning with a simple 5 step method, cross, corners, middle edges, top corners, and then top edges. My friend showed me the cross, corners, and middle edges, and then I went home, bought a cube, and found a video online showing the rest.

                    Then I started solving the first two layers at once after the cross(F2L friedrich method), and don't use algorithms for that. I've done it enough times that I know where the pieces need to move to get everything to fit. I'm slow, but I'm at least doing it right. I've got a couple(we're talking 3-4 only) algorithms that will get me past OLL and I'm working on memorizing the PLL algorithms. At the moment, I've got enough to make it work, but it frustrates me to no end when I see an easy solution to the rubik's cube, but don't know the algorithm, especially on PLL, where the cube is <i>so</i> close to being done.

                    Oh and Rogue, I musta solved the cube somewhere around 200-300 times already, in the last week.

                    How do you "just see" it? I mean, I know it's reflex, so you can't really explain, but the slowest part for me is looking for the pieces I need. I see a piece I can use, and I look for the other edge to line it up with(for F2L), but that takes time, and many times it's on the other side of the cube. Just keep practicing?
                    you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
                    :shooting: :cuss:

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                    • lather
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 591

                      #11
                      Lubrication of a Rubik's cube?

                      Woah..

                      Have any of you ever kissed a girl?
                      "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." --Benjamin Franklin

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                      • jenarelJAM
                        Club Coordinator
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 1611

                        #12
                        Originally posted by lather
                        Lubrication of a Rubik's cube?

                        Woah..

                        Have any of you ever kissed a girl?
                        I admitted that first thing in my first post.

                        And to your question, I'll answer a simple, "yes."
                        And no, you don't get the details...
                        you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
                        :shooting: :cuss:

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                        • Beemer
                          I could tell you but then.

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3250

                          #13
                          You see these vids? Bottom of page. These are 5,6,7 X. You doing the 3X?

                          This guy had, has a record.

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                          • jenarelJAM
                            Club Coordinator
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 1611

                            #14
                            Yup, I watched the 7x7x7 one. That's crazy.
                            you know you play this game too much when the neighbors stop fixing their broken windows...
                            :shooting: :cuss:

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                            • HoppysMag
                              Hoppy's en Fuego!!!
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 3494

                              #15
                              i always just pealed the stickers off and re aranged them
                              "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -John Morley

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