Assault Weapons Ban, It's Back

[spwz99]

Click here for Gun Grabbing Poll

I'm sure most of you know about the Brady's and their Assault Weapons ban and other rabid gun hating legislation.

This is a quick 5 question poll.

Spread the link around, and help screw with their data. (Not that they pay attention to data anyway)

But why make anything easy for the bastards?

In the poll it says "there has been a significant increase in violent crime and homicide since the AWB expired." I want to see numbers that prove to me violence has increased proportionally more than any other year, regardless of the AWB being in place or not.

[cyrus-the-virus]

In the poll it says "there has been a significant increase in violent crime and homicide since the AWB expired." I want to see numbers that prove to me violence has increased proportionally more than any other year, regardless of the AWB being in place or not.

I voted

[Buff]

im a gun lover myself but i dont think anyone really needs a assault rifle, like were you americans actually allowed to hunt with them down there?

nobody needs sports cars, nice houses, nice paintball guns or computers either

[calebh]

It requires a safety lock to be included with every handgun purchased. It's a well meaning but useless law. Those locks are only a few dollars, if someone is going to use one they would just buy one. Giving them away isn't really going to encourage people in using them.

gotcha

[Target Practice]

Hahahaha, yeah, they can go ahead and kiss my ***.

Edit: We can't say ***? That's a load of crap. Ahwell.

[Recon by Fire]

Went to a gun show today and picked up my compulsory AWB ban purchase!

LOL, not quite assault weapon but still would be banned since it has a detachable magazine!

The dreaded, fearsome Ruger 10/22 in .22 Long Rifle rim fire! Oh teh noes!
What can I say, I didn't have one and they are nifty plinkers.

[PyRo]

Went to a gun show today and picked up my compulsory AWB ban purchase!

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LOL, not quite assault weapon but still would be banned since it has a detachable magazine!

The dreaded, fearsome Ruger 10/22 in .22 Long Rifle rim fire! Oh teh noes!
What can I say, I didn't have one and they are nifty plinkers.

Is that semi-automatic?
Why do you need that other then to shoot people?

[CoolHand]

Is that semi-automatic?
Why do you need that other then to shoot people?

Because SOMEONE MUST stop the tin cans when they invade.

I cannot hold the line on my own people, you need to gear up and get out here.

I just saw a Pepsi truck cresting the road two hills over, that's at least 100 cases maybe more.

This is not a drill people, repeat, NOT a drill!

Remember, the only good soda can, is a perforated soda can.

[Recon by Fire]

Yep, I am ready to defend my country from aluminum cans, both foreign and domestic

Yes, the Ruger 10/22 is semi-automatic and the impressive rim-fire .22 long rifle cartridge! Shoot someone? Only if you want to catch there attention or piss them off!

[PyRo]

Yep, I am ready to defend my country from aluminum cans, both foreign and domestic

Yes, the Ruger 10/22 is semi-automatic and the impressive rim-fire .22 long rifle cartridge! Shoot someone? Only if you want to catch there attention or piss them off!

My grandfather got a medal for defending the country from enemy coke machines while he was in the air force. This has apparently been an ongoing problem for a long time and it's time to do something about it.

I can't remember the story exactly. He was set over to check out a building I can't remember why. But he went in, couldn't get the lights on and kept hearing someone banging around in the back. He ordered them to stop and identify themselves a couple times and they refused. He fired a few rounds in that direction and the noise stopped. More guys showed up after the shots and they got the light on to learn he had taken out a coke machine. He got yelled at and they made him pay for the three rounds or so of ammunition he used but other than that they let it go. Anyway a few days later they had a little ceremony for him and presented him with a medal for defending the country from enemy coke machines.

[Ole Unka Phil]

I find it somewhat amusing... however also disturbing... that we has slowly repeated the concept that all weapons have to have a "sporting purpose" to be of any reasonble need. When in fact the Constitution nor the bill of rights nor any of the Federalist papers nor any constitutional deliberations were ever about "hunting or sporting". For some reason people forget that "hunting" is now a privelage and not a right. The RIGHT is about owning firearms for Defense. Both personal and constitutional defense. The use of them in Sporting purposes is secondary to the entire logic for owning them.

So when we hear these bans being proposed then we always hear the term "no sporting purpose" used to defend the action. When in fact its just not the real purpose of the gun anyway. However politicaly inncorrect they may think it is to say "I own this gun in order to keep my government in check and to protect my family from the criminals and marauding hordes after a natural disaster" it is the very truth. And should need no appology. It needs to explanation. It should need no defense to try and then define it as having a "Sporting purpose also".

However they all do. A AR15 makes a fine Varmit Rifle. And it makes a pretty decent Deer rifle too for our small Southern Deer with the right ammo and within the normal 100 yards. Many a one shot stop occurs with it. And an AK 47 make an even better Deer rifle. Its close to a 30 Caliber. They both make excellent target shooting rifles. And that alone is a sport. They both CAN be limited to 5 rounds whenever need be to satisfy local hunting regulations. They all can LOOK like "hunting rifles" (if you want to go by looks) with the simple switch out to wood stocks with checkering. It makes none of them any less deadly if used for defense. But then again... that SHOULD Be thier primary purpose and the rest is all recreational.

Lets get it out of our heads that something that these people are arguing has no sporting purpose immediately gives it some sort of evil nature. And that self defense and constitutional defense is not enough reason to own one. Because... it is. It does NOT have to have a sporting purpose. And the sooner that all Hunters (like most of us) realize that the better off we all are. Because if we keep trying to defend that line we are going to lose the basic right. And that is the basic right to keep and bear arms. Our hunting and target shooting sports are NOT the reason for the Constitutional second ammendment. They exist only as a side advantage from that.

there is a bill now introduced to remove all reference to the terms "Sporting Purposes" in all gun laws. Which is as it should be. To consider them different devides us as gun owners and then once devided we will be over run. This is the plan.

Crime has decreased signifcantly since the sunset of the first AWB. Simple fact is that it is about to go back up as many of the hard core criminals convicted in the 80's under much reduced sentencing laws are about to get out. And these are some really bad dudes and they coming up and out of prison every day now. They are about to be lose on the streets. And they could care less about gun laws.

Also... there are so few of these "Assault Weapons" used in crimes its all laughable. They are not the prefered tool of a crimial.

A semi automatic is a semi automatic the whole world round. The gun itself has no intent. It cannot commit an assault. The person behind the gun can. Wether it be with a single shot 20 gauge shotgun or a AK.

[bleachit]

I do not NEED any gun, then again who "needs" the freedom of speech? religion? to peacefully assemble? The freedom from unreasonable search and seizures? the list goes on. No one "needs" any of the rights guaranteed to us by the Constitution and its amendments. the "need" for them in irrelevant. the Right to have them is.

[Ole Unka Phil]

The first amendment is freedom of speech and assembly

The second amendment is there to garantee you get the first one.... and all that come after it! Mutsa been important to be second right?

[bleachit]

The first amendment is freedom of speech and assembly

The second amendment is there to garantee you get the first one.... and all that come after it! Mutsa been important to be second right?

QFT

[PyRo]

Doesn't everyone know the first amendment only covers muzzle loading weapons since that's all they had back then? Unless you live in NJ, then you can't even have those without a permit.