Sooo unrelated question about internet.....

[Greg2230]

Ok, so I don't really know who to ask, so I figure SOMEONE on here has got to know the answer to this... I am sorry for the fact that it is completely unrelated to paintball.

Can I run a Cat5 internet cable about 50 feet from my modem to my downstair Xbox360 without any lag or speed loss? I am currently using a friends wireless adaptor to my wireless box upstairs, but I have to give it back. Which would be a better connection? The cable or wireless?

Thanks a lot fellas

-Greg-

[Sammy Sandbag]

Yeah it'll be fine, 50' is nothing.

[d4m4don3]

I believe you can go about 300 ft with good cat 5 cable, google the cat5 or cat5e standard for more specifics dude.

[for2nato]

yea sir that would be 100meters (300feet) on a cat5e. and a wired connection is always better than wireless.

[Greg2230]

Great! Thanks. Now I just need to figure out how the hell I'm gonna run it from my upstairs bedroom to the downstairs living room!

[olinar]

drill a hole right through your floor and down to your ceiling. im sure your mom would encourage your creativeness.

[p8ntbal4me]

If your going to be making your own tips I suggest using the following color combo as you will find it can give you the best signal results over the longest distances.

Its named the "AT&T Color Code" which gets its name from the obvious. I had some issues routing data between a few Ciscos when I was in the Corps out in the field. Since secret data (SIPR) lines can not be wireless (and it wasnt popular then) and they cant mix over unsecured data (NIPR), I had issues with the long distances between the switches.

After 2 days of no sleep,... someone had this random idea to boost the signal,... and it works, AWESOME! Something to do with the way the send an receive lines are paired in the cable and how they dont cross eachother.

Anyways,.. if you make a cable, use this color code:

Looking at the RJ-45 end, clip to the ground, cable toward your chest, brass ends facing up and out.
Left to Right

Orange-White
Orange
Green-White
Blue
Blue-White
Green
Brown-White
Brown

Obviously if you dont have a color (say blue) and you have another color (say purple), substitute accordingly.

Its best if you spend the 39 bucks at Home Depot and buy the crimpers, cutters, and the tail ends all in one package,... cause it costs less than seperate purchases.

[d4m4don3]

Screw that if you're running it trough the ceiling might as well get some RJ45 Jacks, 50-60ft cat 5 cable and a couple of 3-6ft cat5 patch cables and a punch down tool. It's easier to use a punch down tool than trying to crimp rj45 connectors.

[BlueDragonX]

Orange-White
Orange
Green-White
Blue
Blue-White
Green
Brown-White
Brown

That's the standard ordering for all Cat5 ethernet cable. If you're not doing it that way you're not doing it right. Unless of course you're running a crossover cable, but I can't recall off the top of my head how to set that up, and you don't need it anyways.

There are a few other rules of thumb to follow that Cisco gives in their spec manuals involving the running of Cat5 cable inside of buildings. One of which is that Cat5 must be at least 6" above ground (earth) level. Cat5 cables should also cross electrical wiring at 90* angles to minimize EMF interference. That's more important than the 6" ground level rule, though. The ground level rule probably is more for long stretches of Cat5 than a short run like this.

[p8ntbal4me]

Screw that if you're running it trough the ceiling might as well get some RJ45 Jacks, 50-60ft cat 5 cable and a couple of 3-6ft cat5 patch cables and a punch down tool. It's easier to use a punch down tool than trying to crimp rj45 connectors.

Your talking about doing a completely new wire run all over the place.

Im some states you need a certification, permit, or license to do it.

If he was to invest that type of time and money for just an XBOX,.. then he might as well shoot the moon and get line tester, 2 crimp tools, revamp his voice runs at the same time, and somewhere at that point your now well into $1500 is you do everything yourself for 2 floors with 5 jacks in a room. 6 Rooms total.

All I was suggesting was the use of a cable scheme thats proven to work.

[skife]

Your talking about doing a completely new wire run all over the place.

Im some states you need a certification, permit, or license to do it.

If he was to invest that type of time and money for just an XBOX,.. then he might as well shoot the moon and get line tester, 2 crimp tools, revamp his voice runs at the same time, and somewhere at that point your now well into $1500 is you do everything yourself for 2 floors with 5 jacks in a room. 6 Rooms total.

All I was suggesting was the use of a cable scheme thats proven to work.

a certification or permit to run cat5 throught your own house?
i'm calling BS

[p8ntbal4me]

a certification or permit to run cat5 throught your own house?
i'm calling BS

Information I aquired newly myself a few weeks ago on these boards.

MANN was asking about questions regarding security cameras and such for his dogs,.. I dropped some information regarding D-Link products that were wireless as well as wires. Something he could easily hookup.

Another member whom is a contractor spoke of looking into local items for sale first due to that when you went to purchase items like the pigtales, wall jacks or other items that cross over (like wire) for security use as well as data under LV (Low Voltage),.. some states require a sale to a licensed or certified professional or contractor. Search the forums,.. you find it.

House hold install,... probley not. I dont know for sure. But Im a general contractor for excavation and I have to call Digsafe even if I want to push a shovel into the ground in NH. If I am caught not having a digsafe called in for excavation,... I can be fined at starting low $100 and work up as high as $5000.

You need building permits in my town for electrical, phone, excavation, demo, and plumbing,... even to put your mail box into the ground on the side of the road,.... why cant you need a license to install low voltage wires?

Just a thought.

[Pneumagger]

dude, I run a 50' cable to a xbox 360 to middle floor of my house, and a 100' cable to the one in the basement. Out router is located in the furthest room on the 3rd floor.

I have never experienced noticeable lag on either system. Heck, I've never experience noticeable ping time differences in systems on both cables simultaneously. I recommend getting a friggen 100' just in case you need more freedom in the future, and coiling up the excess behind the tv with zip ties.

[billybob_81067]

You need building permits in my town for electrical, phone, excavation, demo, and plumbing,... even to put your mail box into the ground on the side of the road,.... why cant you need a license to install low voltage wires?

Just a thought.

So, just so long as he does it himself without letting everyone and their dogs know about it he should be fine...

You're SUPPOSED to get permits for things like that here too, but heck we've put up 4 sheds, and added onto my parents house all without getting any kind of permit at all. Heck we didn't even have the sheds claimed on our property value until about a year ago. It made the taxes lower without the added property value. Someone noticed the newest hayshed and came to investigate. I guess you can't really hide a 54'x150'x20'high white hayshed. But we did have a 75'x100'x14'high shed hidden for about 10 years!

[d4m4don3]

Your talking about doing a completely new wire run all over the place.

Im some states you need a certification, permit, or license to do it.

If he was to invest that type of time and money for just an XBOX,.. then he might as well shoot the moon and get line tester, 2 crimp tools, revamp his voice runs at the same time, and somewhere at that point your now well into $1500 is you do everything yourself for 2 floors with 5 jacks in a room. 6 Rooms total.

All I was suggesting was the use of a cable scheme thats proven to work.

Most of the time the Jacks come with a cheap plastic punch down tool. I for one don't like having to crimp because if it's crimped incorrectly (wrong length, wires crossed) you have to re-crimp. It's easier to fix a mistake on the Jacks rather than cutting the end off and re-crimping, and depending on the quality of the cable and the type of crimps he got it would reduce the amount of grief he had to go thru.

A lot of the guys don't crimp their own cables much anymore because of the availability of patch cables and for the fact that the quality of your crimping job can affect the speed at which your network device will communicate.

I for one think this is easier, but to each your own.