In copyright infringement news

[going_home]

Well......

They're more in fear of an INFORMED population.

The Chinese government certainly is afraid of that.
Well, no they arent either. They dont care how informed they are.
They still will get the population to do their will because they cant defend themselves.

[edweird]

If China did not care about their citizens being informed, they wouldnt be so concerned with bloggers or editing history.

re(bloggers): http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?ali...modsrc=reuters

re(history edit): http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle1805832.ece


/yall really need to figure out how to stay on topic.
//RIAA is trying to rewrite copyright law and already have cleared legal way to collect royalties for media they dont even have rights to.

[Aggravated Assault]

/yall really need to figure out how to stay on topic.

Some of them can't help themselves.

All you have to do is say a magic word.

It only took 15 posts to get to armed rebellion after that.

[edweird]

agreed, silly easily lead atomitons with 20 second attention spans.

for review, this thread is about Ashcroft being hand lead by the RIAA into revising copyright law in a manner that could change the very way we communicate each other.

possession and attempted use of blank cd's or bittorrent program = 1-10 years in prison
using burned "pirated software" of windows 98 = life in prison

[Lohman446]

agreed, silly easily lead atomitons with 20 second attention spans.

for review, this thread is about Ashcroft being hand lead by the RIAA into revising copyright law in a manner that could change the very way we communicate each other.

possession and attempted use of blank cd's or bittorrent program = 1-10 years in prison
using burned "pirated software" of windows 98 = life in prison

So, at the base is there a beleif that we should not protect copyrighted material? Or that current protections are working? John Ashcroft is being led? How? You do realize he is not part of the current federal administration right?

[edweird]

So, at the base is there a beleif that we should not protect copyrighted material?
I feel it is up to the responsible party to protect their own copyright, the RIAA and occasionally the MPAA are initating sweeping changes that are going to cripple how we communicate using technology. Might I suggest that you read some of the news storys I have already posted, and put the peices together to see the scary ends that this rabbit hole leads to.

Or that current protections are working?
The current protections are in place, and available for use, to modify them to meet infringe on our rights further in the manner asked for is simply reckless and frankly is quite scary imho.

John Ashcroft is being led? How?
First of all, Oops... I typed Ashcroft, but intended to say Alberto Gonzales instead. Consider the point that the recommendation appears to have been written to specifically notify the RIAA of infractions. The RIAA is a private org, and IMHO it is clear that via this policy push they are trying to establish themselves as government org to handle all copyright infractions.

You do realize he is not part of the current federal administration right?
moot per my above mention that it was a typo.

[geekwarrior]

agreed, silly easily lead atomitons with 20 second attention spans.

for review, this thread is about Ashcroft being hand lead by the RIAA into revising copyright law in a manner that could change the very way we communicate each other.

possession and attempted use of blank cd's or bittorrent program = 1-10 years in prison
using burned "pirated software" of windows 98 = life in prison

jeez...what about those of us who use cd's and bittorrent for legal things, like storing pictures, and downloading beta programs like pr 0.6? or legally downloading music and putting it on a cd to play in your car?

@stupid politicians who are able to be bought

[bleachit]

crazy people can make all the laws in the world that they want.


there is only one tiny little problem. It's called the Supreme Court.

[Lohman446]

[B]Or that current protections are working?
The current protections are in place, and available for use, to modify them to meet infringe on our rights further in the manner asked for is simply reckless and frankly is quite scary imho.

I understand they are in place, but are they currently effective at protecting intellectual property? Not to say the new plan is without flaws, but I think it hard to find an argument that the current system does not have some serious issues in it as well, and is basically impotent when it comes to what it is supposed to do.

[Aggravated Assault]

On one certain point, as a musician, I do feel there is a problem when someone's "intellectual property", ie. songs, can be downloaded and passed around for free.

How are the current laws working? Fine a bunch of college boys for illegal downloads? That's supposed to scare the rest into paying for their music?

[bornl33t]

Truth be told, at the current rate that music costs I can be REALLY selective about what I listen to. I might be one of a few but I don't need cable TV to survive, I don't need CD's, and I don't need DVD's. I admit when something strikes me I will pay for it but there just isn't enough time in the day to justify what is being charged. The RIAA is bigger then the courts, it has been for some time. To complain about it is like whining about gas.

If you don't like it, start a revolution cause a boycott will not work.

Not what you wanted to hear, but I'm not going to work myself up over something you or I can't change.

How's that for being on topic?

[robnix]

The movie and recording industries need to take a hard look at the way they generate revenue. It's not the fifties anymore, DVD sales are bigger than theater sales now, digital music and ringtones are now more than making up for the drop off in CD sales. The opportunities for smaller artists are so much greater due to the ease of distribution and the audience provided by the internet.

The internet and other forms of technology have made piracy a more efficient and convienient enterprise. Big business needs to rework their models to take advantage of these resources in the same way that the criminals have.

[ScatterPlot]

agreed, silly easily lead atomitons with 20 second attention spans.

for review, this thread is about Ashcroft being hand lead by the RIAA into revising copyright law in a manner that could change the very way we communicate each other.

possession and attempted use of blank cd's or bittorrent program = 1-10 years in prison
using burned "pirated software" of windows 98 = life in prison

Murder = 1 year sometimes



@ family friend gets killed by poor pitiful wife in cold blood

[Lohman446]

The movie and recording industries need to take a hard look at the way they generate revenue. It's not the fifties anymore, DVD sales are bigger than theater sales now, digital music and ringtones are now more than making up for the drop off in CD sales. The opportunities for smaller artists are so much greater due to the ease of distribution and the audience provided by the internet.

The internet and other forms of technology have made piracy a more efficient and convienient enterprise. Big business needs to rework their models to take advantage of these resources in the same way that the criminals have.

The problem is copy protection. Put it on things and people complain it does not work with what they have. Use I-tunes and you basically pay for what you could get for free just to be legal (the way I do it). So the recording industry has to learn, work on the new technology, and convince people to pay for something they could get for free, just to be legal. Thats a task.

At least with tapes recording was a pain, and for many people it was easier to just buy it then to record from there friends. The problem now, it is about the same "work" to do it legally or not, the difference being if you pay.

It is not surprise the recording industry is looking for new protections.

[wjr]