AO: We are back from the dead... again! After an 18 day outage, we are finally alive and well. Who knew how complicated updating software/databases from 2008 would be. I still have alot of tweaks to make, but my main goal was getting everything patched and updated to 2026.
Vbulletin 6 has changed alot since 2008 so we will have a ton of new features to dig into.
Actually for close up work a 22 is your best bet. Easy to conceal, easy to silence, and in the right hands, VERY deadly. Damn thing will bounce all around and never exit.
well i say he stays in the automag family and just gets a 44
It's ok, if i was in wisconsin, I'd put a gun to use too.
im not sure about texas laws ect ect but in wisconsin if some one breaks into your house with ANY sort of weopon you CAN use force against them. if they clearly have the intent to do bodily harm to you. you can shoot to kill and walk away a free man in wisconsin
uncle is the sheriff heh
t33kyboy "So if a cat is dropped from 11 inches, it will most likely die."
Actually for close up work a 22 is your best bet. Easy to conceal, easy to silence, and in the right hands, VERY deadly. Damn thing will bounce all around and never exit.
I have to disagree. I have owned many .22lr pistols and shot competition with them. I know that they do bounce around in the body, and I know that it has been a round of choice for professional assasins. The reasons you mentioned fit in with that, but you must remember that an assassin is the one on the offensive, not defensive. If you are trying to protect yourself, a .22lr round is a very poor choice.
Yes, they can come in small concealable packages. Yes you can silence them. But then again, are you going to pay all the money needed for a silencer?? First, you have to pay for the background check / tax stamp which is normally a few hundred dollars at least. Then comes the silencer itself, and normally the good ones cost at least $500. (Already I think it's obvious why this round is a poor choice, but let's continue). Now, the tax stamp is only good for that silencer for the life of it, so when it wears out you get to do the process again. Now for the gun operation. With a semi-auto pistol firing the 22lr round, there is a common problem where it doesn't always produce enough force to bring the slide all the way back and feed the second round. When this happens, your second shot is just a "click" with no boom. I'd hate to be in that situation where I'm relying on that next shot to potentially save my life and all I hear is a click.
To fix that problem, you can usually use better ammunition with +p or +p+ ratings. Anyways, when it comes to silencers, you have to use subsonic ammo for them to be any good. Subsonic rounds are of course moving a lot slower so they typically don't overpenetrate as bad but at the same time they don't always do as much damage either.
I've seen one of the police training videos where a person in self defense tried using a .22lr pistol against a larger guy who was drunk/on drugs. Needless to say, he empties a 10 round magazine into the guy and it doesn't even phase him. I'd rather have something that is going to knock someone back and that definitely get the job done every time.
im not sure about texas laws ect ect but in wisconsin if some one breaks into your house with ANY sort of weopon you CAN use force against them. if they clearly have the intent to do bodily harm to you. you can shoot to kill and walk away a free man in wisconsin
uncle is the sheriff heh
Thats pretty standard basically anywhere but Mass. - which actually for some time required you to attempt to flee your home if possible.
I know at one point Texas was very liberal about the use of deadly force, basically at that time you could use it to stop any felony. I woudl assume it has changed since then.
That being said, being criminally justified and in the clear in cival court are two VERY seperate matters
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Thats pretty standard basically anywhere but Mass. - which actually for some time required you to attempt to flee your home if possible.
I know at one point Texas was very liberal about the use of deadly force, basically at that time you could use it to stop any felony. I woudl assume it has changed since then.
That being said, being criminally justified and in the clear in cival court are two VERY seperate matters
i thought in texas tresspassing will get you shot.
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Well...I've never had the experience of one coming back to knock on my door, but I definitely did date a girl who was not right in the head.
She broke up with me, and then went nuts. She was calling me 20 times a day, her mom was calling me, she stopped eating/sleeping, and she started spamming my mailboxes on myspace/facebook/gmail accounts.
Because of her I had to change my myspace like 3 times because she kept finding me, delete my e-mail account, and block her on facebook and just ignore phone calls until she finally stopped.
im not sure about texas laws ect ect but in wisconsin if some one breaks into your house with ANY sort of weopon you CAN use force against them. if they clearly have the intent to do bodily harm to you. you can shoot to kill and walk away a free man in wisconsin
uncle is the sheriff heh
Yet I got a warning because I made a U turn, last time I go to Superior
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