How old Automags Evolve. Chronicaling my latest build.

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  • cougar20th
    Registered User

    • Sep 2002
    • 2330

    #1

    How old Automags Evolve. Chronicaling my latest build.

    So this is a unintentional build. Never really planned on it. Just kind of evolved. Started as getting a nice mech loaner style mag.

    This old automag became available to me at a good price. So I have my redneck friend (Jim) ship it to me. Agree to buy it over a year ago, paid a few months ago. Received it this week. Perfect loaner gun.


    Planned on using it the way I got it as a loaner. But while waiting I decided to change the build from a reassemble it and use it as is to a “let the automag Evolve”.
    So disassemble the Classic mag,

    First the pile is parts to be kept,
    Hmmm. What happened here. Not much left.


    Now the pile of parts not needed. Maybe sell most of them, Maybe just keep them.


    So after visiting the BST here on AO,BEO & contacting Tuna I have this pile of parts to use. Some extras just for good measure. Its all Ryan's fault. If he hadn't sold me the CF MM body I wouldn't have needed all the rest of the parts. VER's been in my paintball dresser for years waiting for something to go on.


    Mock up assembly, Damn it forgot the feedneck & detents at home. Knew I was forgetting something.
    Trying to decide Dust black or gloss purple. Which ever I will anodize all the aluminum to match if its not already. If black I still need to get a DW CF barrel.
    Also need to decide VER or M90.
    Still need to make a Titanium sear pin and gather some Titanium or aluminum screws.


    Now that the gun has evolved it has become lighter, leaner, faster & meaner.

    First observation. Its light but very back heavy.
    The Xvalve weights twice what the M90 does.
    The VER weights about 3/4 what the xvalve does. Probably closer to equal with a battery.

    As well as the gun getting lighter my wallet did to. Gathered most of the parts without worrying about keeping a tally of cost until the end. Note to self. DON'T ever look at that column in the spreadsheet again.
    Last edited by cougar20th; 03-13-2015, 06:59 AM.
    Originally posted by dano_____
    I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.
  • zondo
    One of 8 bosses... again.

    • Dec 2006
    • 2245

    #2
    I actually really like that purple CF barrel.

    Where's the purple X?
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    • cougar20th
      Registered User

      • Sep 2002
      • 2330

      #3
      Originally posted by zondo
      I actually really like that purple CF barrel.

      Where's the purple X?
      Purple X still needs to be assembled & tuned, The black ones ready to go so its in for now.
      Originally posted by dano_____
      I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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      • Syko89
        Registered User


        • Jul 2012
        • 643

        #4
        Maybe you do have something I want

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        • Cyco-Dude

          #5
          lol that is not an evolution, that is you taking the rail and building up a totally different automag.

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          • knownothingmags
            RKM 3D Designs

            • Apr 2010
            • 4810

            #6
            looks freakin sweet man.
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            • Cyco-Dude

              #7
              Originally posted by knownothingmags
              looks freakin sweet man.
              thing has got to be uber-lightweight, too!

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              • cougar20th
                Registered User

                • Sep 2002
                • 2330

                #8
                Originally posted by Cyco-Dude
                thing has got to be uber-lightweight, too!
                Thats the goal of the project at this point. It surprised the guys at the local shop how light a mag can be.
                Originally posted by dano_____
                I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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                • Syko89
                  Registered User


                  • Jul 2012
                  • 643

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cougar20th
                  Thats the goal of the project at this point. It surprised the guys at the local shop how light a mag can be.
                  What local shop

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                  • cougar20th
                    Registered User

                    • Sep 2002
                    • 2330

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Syko89
                    What local shop
                    Paintball Wizard I Tewksbury MA. I grew up down there and its 3 minutes from my work. I still consider it my local shop.
                    I wont deal with the shop in Nashua even if its closer to home.
                    Originally posted by dano_____
                    I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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                    • OPBN
                      OldPBNoob

                      • Sep 2008
                      • 5240

                      #11
                      I did a similiar mock up a few years back with one of Warped Mephistos CF bodies, Ver and Ultralight rail. IIRC I was able to ce in at 1.45 total weight including a barrel. I'll have to dig up the thread to confirm but it took control not to hunt for another VER to permanently build it up that way..... Think after I added up the prices I was well over $1000. Of course having $650 in a valve and frame doesn't help...
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                      • cougar20th
                        Registered User

                        • Sep 2002
                        • 2330

                        #12
                        Originally posted by OPBN
                        I did a similiar mock up a few years back with one of Warped Mephistos CF bodies, Ver and Ultralight rail. IIRC I was able to ce in at 1.45 total weight including a barrel. I'll have to dig up the thread to confirm but it took control not to hunt for another VER to permanently build it up that way..... Think after I added up the prices I was well over $1000. Of course having $650 in a valve and frame doesn't help...
                        I think I remember that build. Capped stainless valve if I remember correctly.
                        Originally posted by dano_____
                        I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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                        • Mole1119
                          Registered User

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 414

                          #13
                          That's looking amazing!
                          I ended up using a aluminum barrel and forgrip to try and balance out the weight on my CF Body

                          PS you should def use the M90 and let the VER go

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                          • OPBN
                            OldPBNoob

                            • Sep 2008
                            • 5240

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cougar20th
                            I think I remember that build. Capped stainless valve if I remember correctly.
                            No was actually an X. I basically took the CF frame off of what was built up as an Ultralight Mag build and out the VER on it. I'll root around for the pics. Most of the marker excepting the VER, which is permanently on my MM2K9, and the X Valve got sold off to fund other stuff.
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                            • cougar20th
                              Registered User

                              • Sep 2002
                              • 2330

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Mole1119
                              That's looking amazing!
                              I ended up using a aluminum barrel and forgrip to try and balance out the weight on my CF Body

                              PS you should def use the M90 and let the VER go
                              Only way that would happen is if the complete gun was sold. Ive been holding onto the new VER for to long (5ish years I believe).
                              Originally posted by dano_____
                              I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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