The Feasibility of Bullet-Shaped Paintballs

[Jaremy Rykker]

Based on this data we believe round paintballs are too light and have lousy aerodynamics to expect any more accuracy than what we are currently getting. When the military came to us and wanted a more accurate non lethal system we made a bullet shaped, spin stabilized paintball that far outperformed any equal weight round projectile. Accuracy by volume has been, and will remain, the best way to score eliminations.

I've noticed several things listed in there including "we made a bullet shaped, spin stabilized paintball that far outperformed any equal weight round projectile.

Could I ask for technical information on the increase in accuracy with these rounds as well as any other factors that they changed including range and such? I feel that as AGD is going into scenario paintball they really could make a splash in that world not only by bringing along the T1, but perhaps developing a system to use these paintballs. I will link a discussion in the main paintball forum regarding the feasibility without all of the same facts, but I really would like to see some hard fact around here, so any of you airsmiths, AGD techs, or other physics and paintball genuises who can provide information on this would be greatly appreciated.

Bullet-Shaped Paintballs

[Lohman446]

My understanding, based on rumor alone is that the spin stabilized rounds start at 8 grams, and less was not nearly as functional. 8 grams exceeds the insurance safety regulations or whoever sets them of 3 grams

[Thunder Bunny]

Holy crap I was just reminded of something from many many years ago. Those who have been involved in paintball for ten years or so may remember a company that was going to come out with a gun that shot football shaped paint and had some sort of electric chain drive feed system, multi piece carbon fiber barrels that attached magnetically, Had a tank heater so you never had to worry about playing in the cold, and a bunch of other stuff.

I mentioned it to my brother and he sent me this link: http://www.vintagerex.com/pics/gunpi...achofire_2.jpg

[Miscue]

If I remember correctly, Tom said it could hit a human target at 100 yards around 90% of the time - but don't quote me on that.

[ScatterPlot]

The paintballs for the 303 cost a bazillion dollars. Plus who would make them? AGD alone would require huge expense to make them in large enough quantities for the mass public. The law enforcement people don't exactly use a case a day now do they

[ScatterPlot]

Now what WOULD be useful would be some kind of machine that would add these fins to existing paintballs, that maybe an individual or consumer could buy. Maybe a large one could be sold to fields, so FPO would still be viable. If it was not too much I bet it could do pretty good. Just add a sleeve to the backside of a paintball and be able to launch from your own gun. Crap man you could make a new body for a mag that would shoot em. Maybe Bert has found himself another weekend project...

Oh BTW I'm not talking like gluing your own fins and all onto a paintball one at a time, but maybe something like those semi-automatic bullet maker thingies. Just figure out how to make some sleeve thingies for paintball. Problem would be feeding them in large quantites for the guys who want accuracy AND volume. Maybe a dual barreled mag setup, an over/under kind of thing... sniper rifle and semi-auto in one...

[athomas]

There was a company about 12 yrs ago that produced a plastic fin attached to a round (1/2 shell) cup. The paintball fit into this cup. They worked fine but never really caught on. Some guys liked to use them for sniping. The range was incredible. The problem was hand loading them into the guns one at a time.

[BAMFSK]

Let me ask how would your hopper even load this bullet shaped paintballs the correct way every time, you would have to buy a magazine which would probably only hold 30 at the most

[ScatterPlot]

The point of sniping is not volume...

[SlartyBartFast]

Let me ask how would your hopper even load this bullet shaped paintballs the correct way every time, you would have to buy a magazine which would probably only hold 30 at the most

Modified Qloader?

I'm sure that the screw and feed tube could be modified to feed the FN303 ammunition.

[justjoshin590]

actually i think it could, the only thing is it would take some real modding, but i think just having a spring fed, or just stacked ten round clip of sniper ammo would own, just slap it on the marker , but most guns would have to be made to have longer breaches, or you could just slip in each round sniper style, actually that would own, itake a look at the windrunner sniper, itll be set up in a way that i think this would be very easy to do:

http://armotech.us/forum/showthread.php?threadid=3102&perpage=25&pagenumber=2

itll have ten paintballs stacked in the clip with a 12 gram, when your out of ammo your out of air, so i imagine the magazines could be modded to hold longer ammo, and maybe the internals would have to be set back, but not likely, i think something very easy to do would just be make a small platic cup with fins to go on the back of the paintball,

[ScatterPlot]

I had a thought about making some of these. Would it work to break one paintball in two, clean out all the paint, and attach it to the back with super glue or something. It would be easy to make with existing stuff until they could get a machine built that would do it for you.

[justjoshin590]

hm, you migth also want to try ataching a cotton tail to the backof them, ive heard some things about it, but never had a chance to test it, i will be this weekend though

[ScatterPlot]

Cotton balls could have some biodegradeability issues (I know they can but it will take longer than a pill)

[Bad_Dog]

so you could run around in a field covered in cotton!