Shatner 2 recap

[Burphel]

I did however notice that about half way through the final battle the refs started to hold there finger over the top of the crono. I don't know what that was about but maybe they should have been using the red ones instead.

Just for reference, if you read the instructions for the handheld chronies, you're supposed to hold them with the top about a half inch below the barrel for an accurate reading. If the barrel is touching, the vibration of the shot messes up the measurement. Many inexperienced refs and players don't know about this and assume that since your barrel is supposed to touch the red chronies, this goes for the handhelds too.

The little loops on the top of the handhelds are supposed to be so you can hang the chrono off the tip of the barrel and shoot. Since this is a slow process, and getting a half inch freehand is tough when uninformed players want to touch the top, a lot of refs shortcut and put a finger on top and have the player shoot touching their finger. It ain't perfect, but it's better than doing it with direct contact.

My guess is that a knowledgable player or three pointed this out to a ref that didn't know and the situation finally got remedied. The lesson for those of you that didn't know this little factoid is to make sure that the proper procedure is being used when you're being chronied, since doing it wrong could stick you with a false reading that makes you look like a cheater.

[Tyger]

From the other side of the field....

Ok, since we're airing our grievances here...

***Tyger tuns on the "Dead Kennedys" to full blast....***

Ok, now I'm in the mood.

There were two players on the "bad guys" team that thoroughly pissed me off. One wa a guy behind an airball bunker in the grinder (what I called the corner region righ tby the netting) He did a very nice tourney wipe. Shot him in his left arm, he drove the hit into the airball bunker as he switched from the left to the right side wiping off the hit. THAT made me mad.

On the next insertion I went down into the woodline (which in itself was a miracle, as my ankle was not happy with the arrangement...) I got on my belly to get my bearings as a "Bad guy" player WALKED right into my barrel. So I shot one ball. The guy decides to shoot back at me, not even checking himself. So I decided that he really wanted to see the performance capability of the E-Mag, and probably poured a good 25% of my hopper into him. Three goggle hits (not mask, GOGGLES), two on his gun, a few shoulder, and so on. He shoots back at me, and hits me in the hand. Being an honorable player, I call myslef hit. I go find a referee and say "Will you tell that player there that head shots are terminal?"

The ref and I go find the player. (Easy to do, he wore a "Warped Sports" yellow and red stocking cap, had a red to black fade gun, and didn't leave the place I shot him at, Still playing and NOT waiting for a medic.) The payer I shot claims that the paint, still dripping wet paint, were old hits and that I had "only hit me in the gun." And the ref bought it by telling me that since he wasn't there, and didn't see what happened, he was "forced" to go by what the player said to him.

So any of the AO guys who saw me walk back into the tent with that look of "Someone will die" as I walked past the Automag booth with my goggles still on? I wasn't kidding. I went hunting for that guy. Sgt. Splatter tracked me down and told me that I shouldn't play angry and take out my anger on some poor dude. I wasn't playing angry, I was looking for one player who I would know on sight. He's lucky I didn't find him. I grabbed my full pods and I'm not sure if I would have let up on the trigger. I don't care if it's overshooting, but I can reload and shoot at the same time. (Not exactally what a sponsor wants to hear but you know what? I hate cheaters. I really, REALLY hate cheaters. And what's worse is I hate cheaters who lie about it.)

All that being said, there was wiping on both sides. Don't play the high road, it was out there. A lot of blatant playing on too, not even botheirng to wipe. I was looking for "Blue-shirts" wiping myself. Belive me, they would have regretted it if I found them. Melissa offered to get me a "Player ref" card, but I declined. I knew full well that if I had to walk up to someone I would have pulled their card, not just punched it.

The chrony situation was intresting. At one point I walked into the field and shot at the ground to make sure it was still working. And I FELT the thump through my foot and knee. It felt hot. So I found a ref and asked him if he had a chrony. He did, and I checked myself at 265. I don't have an explanation for it, other than it felt warm. Just strangeness overall.

I also want to hit something here about that guy in the final battle who went down. I was told, on the field, that his own team shot him in the back of the head point blank. It's happened to me at a big game (Someone behind me decided to try to walk the trigger, and he ended up walking it into my head from ten feet. Not fun.) If it was indeed from one of us, believe me it wasn't intentional. In the massive shootouts like that, you throw paint at something down field and hope it connects with someone. I spent ten minutes shooting shillouettes in windows from my belly in a 200 MPH version of "Whack-a-Mole". But from the Cav side, we heard it was a friendly fire incident, and we got that info from a ref.

I also found that if you talked to the refs first before you did somehting, they were usually cool with it. I asked a ref every time before I shot around the corner of the field near the netting down the grinder. Sometimes I was told yes, sometimes no, but each time I asked.

Ok, onto the good stuff. You know what's scary as hell? Seeing the AO guys playing together. Without realising it I almost picked a fight with them. I say almost because the first guy I shot at was someone with them. Then there was this time-out becasue of an ankle blowout. Then I got into this shootout with someone else, and he had a great shot to take me out. I walked out of my position, and I heard "TYGER! That was YOU!?!?" And I look over, and there's ALL of Wang Force. YEEP! It was cool to see some kind of teamwork going on.

The Cav. team had no real organization going. I went to the fort to get what the mission-du-jour was, and I was told "Well, we're not sure." no kidding. We had no 'team' radio frequency, and before noon I had ripped the radio out of my goggles because it was a waste of space. I was not happy with how the team played, and I find it amazing we won. That's honest there. With the total lack of teamwork and communications, It's amazing we could get it together to do anything.

EMR ran the event better than CPX did last year. Air fills beyond 2000 PSI are good. They were sometimes a little overzealous. I was told to get off the field after being hit on the shoulder once, but the ref did say it was a cool crawl regardless. I was often told to leave the field without being given my 1 minute "Medic" time. That bothered me, because it meant I had to walk off the field MANY times. With a bum ankle, this is NOT fun!!!!

Now individually, we had some really COOL plays. I gotta give it up to Darkstorm for pulling the move of the game, IMHO. I'll let him tell it, but man, I can't be mad at him for pulling such a dirty, underhanded, devious move that was so brilliant!!!! You dirty dog! I love it!!!! I wish I knew about the "OK Corral" shootout, I would have liked to see Tom as the last man standing. That would have been REALLY cool.

I was more than frustrated with my inability to move, I did a lot of crawling, because that's what my ankle was up to. Teh lack of information flow was frustrating too. But, you know what? All told, a good time. Two mental midgets are NOT going to ruin a good thing. I talked to Shatner, Mancow, Tom and Glenn. I met a lot of the AO faithful. I shot some good Severe paint. I got shot at by some cool people, and got filmed while telling the AO people "Just ask me to surrender, and I will. I promise." :)

And oh yeah, some face-time for AGD and the meow-man. Alwasy 'fun'... (See below)

-Tyger

(The pic below was published in the Scranton paper on Monday.)

[IronKong51]

[Darkstorm]

Nice meeting you again

Okay Tyger here goes....but there is more to the story than Tyger knows. To me it is funny how "fate" works out in paintball. So it is time to come clean on it all.

It is directly because of Spplat-I is why I know of AO, own an Automag, and met Tyger. I saw him on the field and pulled his tail and said "look a kitty". Now at Spplat-II, I tried to enlist Claire in an "old" scenario trick on Tyger, but I could never get her to do it. But that bad karma would come back to haunt me.

Out on the field, I played the first half of the day on the lines, more in the woods, but mostly front. After that it was infiltration time. I made two passes at the castle. First time I was shot out, but the ref said I was the first one to make it there. On the second pass at the castle is when I found the Stables.

At another MXS event in February, Fandango, I learned the most lax security is at the insertion zone. So, I cut through the tomestones and intended to walk into the castle behind a blue insertion. That is when I noticed there was a flag station at the barn. Knowing that it was close to time for the flag call, I switched the flag to red and checked out who I could shoot near the insertion zone, 30 yrds away. There weren't any blue players down the tape line in the grass, but I noticed that someone had switched the flag back to yellow on their way off field.

I switched it back to Red and guarded it until the flag hang was recorded. Since a crowd was starting to build and the insertion window was soon to open, I switched the flag back to Yellow, walked back to the trees and had a bit of nap until my hopper timer went off to let me know it was flag time again. Same plan, 1 minute before the window, I switch the flag and go check the insertion zone again.

This time a large group of about 20 Blue is walking toward me. I let some long balls fly and everyone just sort of stops and looks at me. Hey why is that guy shooting at us? The first guy in line finally bunkers down and returns fire. So I run maybe 16 or 17 yrds, take a quick walk around the barn and switch the flag back to yellow. Back to the meadow but noone is around.

By this point in time Blue has noticed the Stables flag keeps getting reported RED, but when they check it is YELLOW. I of course realize that someone had to notice by now. On the third go at this I change the flag and guard it. I hear the flag reporting start, but for some reason there is a long delay (bad luck). Just as the flag is to be reported RED a guy shows up to switch it and I, much to his surprise, open up on him. Then I walk around the building when someone opens up on me with an EMag to take me out. Stepping out from behind the van with his EMag is, of course, Tyger.


Note:
I did not say what the "old" trick was, because that way it can be used on Tyger at Spplat-III.

[Dayspring]

I chronoed at 250 but was told on the field that I was shooting 285.

I played for the Calvary.

When I rechronoed though I had actually jumped up about 10 FPS. It could have been the temperature change.

285-250=35fps Math skills are important.


Alot of people here are made at me but if you told me that you guys dont deserve to win. I wouldnt belive it.

I offered to play for next year and was told on the forum that I am not welcome.

We're mad b/c you are making BROAD statements about something you have no idea about. You're putting down people you never even met. You're trying to be a moral guide to people who don't need or want it.

As for you playing next year, be my guest and side with Shatner again. It'll just make for a better target pool & he needs somebody to sit at his camp all day.


If you had eliminations on your own team than obviosuly those guys were cheating and they shouldnt be welcome next year.

If you knew anything about big game/scenario play, you know that friendly fire happens. The Evil Inc. guys ran a terrific campaign and are to be commended for their efforts.


Next year think smart. Take advantage of situations and play fair. Whiping is a joke. Whipers cant win.

You don't say? I'd like to think we played REAL smart. From what Tyger said, there was no team communication. It was all "lets run and shoot people."

This is yet another example of you running your mouth and not having any info to back it up.

BTW- It's WIPE. Check Webster's.

My only legit complaint against the refs was that I had chrono'd 3 times (without leaving the field) on the final battle. I went to chrono in again, the ref hid the chrono number from me, told me I was shooting hot and that I was done for the day.

I had purposely chrono'd low ALL day, including the speedball game to avoid hot shots.

Me thinks that it was shady...

[Jeffy-CanCon]

Darkstorm:

That was a GREAT story!

That's the kind of smart play that makes big games and scenario games so much fun. Very cool.

Tyger:

I can sympathise with your bum ankle, buddy. I popped a kneecap out of place the week before the game, and was very limited by my limp. I couldn't really play like I wanted to, but on the other hand, my doctor didn't want me to play at all. I had to give up the game about 3:00, it was probably the walks on-and-off the field that did me in, too. But I wouldn't have missed it.

[Trips]

Darkstorm,

Once again you represent the Texas Rangers in the best possible light.

To all I wish to state we regard this gentle giant as one of our most valuable weapons in the Rangers arsenal.

How he is able to sneak around, especially when wearing his trade mark "matching Hawaiian shirts and shorts, is beyond me. The fact he can live forever at the enemies base awaiting an assault so he can torture the base security with his smoke grenades is awe inspiring.

How this man keeps avoiding all those villagers with the torches and pitchforks ....well I digress.

Thanks for living the motto "One Mission, One Ranger" at Shatnerball II.

You really do "Rock the field"

Trips
"Proud Teammate of Darkstorm"
Texas Rangers

[RobAGD]

I had a blast.

I played way better at Spplat 1 than I did here but I was trying to fill holes in lines, and get things done that needed doing.

Heck I had 7 insertions in 5 minutes when the Cav were around our Insertion Zone :O Ouch

But my only real complaint was the tank rule on 20ft.

I had several crawls runined by a tank rolling by on the way off the field ! They were dead tanks and I still got pulled And the way the tanks came out made sure to move as many people out of thier bunkers as they could. Nothing like getting moved or pulled after making a great push because the tank is rolling out.

I have to give the Cav credit for using that lame rule to bust into our base and get the critters.

Only other problem is the ammount of points awarded for the final battle. 500 seems a it high because thats enough to wipe away a full days worth of play on field in the last hour in a speed ball match. Considering both teams had around 1000 points giving up more than half that ammount in one battle seems a little wrong to me but He I play tournies I just have to worry about 1 point per live body, 3 points per dead body, 20 first pull 60 hang :) Easy stuff.

I would like to give a shout out to the Evil Inc Guys for running our forces. Next year we ned to kep the demo guys on a tighter leash. And we need some more field coms.

Wang Force for the giggles and for Happy H for being nice about me lighing him up when I snap shot him in the bushes.

A big fat boo to the kid with the pump gun I put 2 balls on,and he spun and gogged me. BOOOOO on you !

Ill be at SA III

Muhahahaha


-Robert

[MXS]

The final battle wasn't worth 500 points. I don't know why someone would say that.
The final battle - as announced by JJ on stage prior to the battle - was worth 10 percent of the highest score PRIOR to the final battle.

I just got home and haven't unpacked, and thus don't have the score sheets in front of me. But, I will say the scores prior to the final battle were like 1,159 to 1,515 with the final battle being worth 151 points. There was about 500 points difference between the two teams in the final outcome.
I'll post the correct totals once I locate the sheets.

AOers should be very proud of their efforts in this game. The Raiders/Cyborgs led the entire game up to about 3 p.m. when two things happened: 1) Your livestock was stolen (thus denying you points for two time checks, I believe) and 2) Shatner and Mancow defeated Tom and Glenn in a 100-point poker game. Then there was the final battle which capped the win for the Cavalry/Posse.

This was a MUCH improved team with a better idea of how big games are played than the team I saw last year. The speedball game at the OK Corral was priceless.

This was a truly close game with two very competitive teams.
Well done by everyone!

[LaW]

I was also a victim of the tank rule, heck I didn't even see or hear the tank coming when all of a sudden it was on its way out and I just heard a ref yelling at me to get off the field. I thought that was crap especially if the tank was not in play still. But other then that I though the fight all day was GREAT!

[RobAGD]

Mother,

Then that would be my mistake because that is what I had heard at the event after the fact. I stand corrected.

One minor gripe fixed :)

Well one of the reason we did better was the fact we had air and paint !! And we now get the idea that these things called points are good hahaha

BTW - Mega Thanks to Draxxus for sporting up the Inferno for $60 a case thats a great deal and it was some damn good shooting paint. Now if they only could take credit cards I would have bought a 2nd case of paint. I had to make sure I had cash to get home

-Robert

[Star_Base_CGI]

You guys are good sports and ambasadors to paintball.

NOT

AGD ROB
Comment to Starbase_CGI "Nothing will ever be straight in your head, unless you get shot by an arrow." by Guatemala_Bob

You made Tom Kaye look like a fool.

[Mckevern]

Hey Trekki

Even if we did make Tom look like a fool, at least we've kissed a girl. Not some card board cut-out of Captain Kirk.

Anyway.

I had a good time. There were some instances that I was a little annoyed with the sportsmanship on both sides.

I applaud the kid that was one of our medics. He had testicular fortitude, and listened to me when I needed to keep him safe. He keep the squad I was a part of in play when we had to hold the wall.

I think the best part for me was when I teamed up with someone and we hiked up the mountain. Yeah we walked into a squad that was walking that perimeter, but we almost walked past them. They were looking at the other two guys that were way behind us.

We got a couple of them, but we got wacked. I was actually a little happy about it because I just didn't have the energy to continue on.

[Dayspring]

Care to explain that one?

Originally posted by Star_Base_CGI
You guys are good sports and ambasadors to paintball.

NOT

You made Tom Kaye look like a fool.

[Pacman]

SLasherdan,

Posted by Slasherdan >>>Other than that I did have a fun time. The day was pretty much stacked against us from the beginning though. Pacman and Blue selected Shatner's base and picked the one that was the hardest to assault. <<<

Not True... Whomever told you this is wrong. Fact is We were assigned that base to fit into the story line of the Calvary being in a big fort near the city. Blue nor I DID NOT know of the base assignment prior to it being done. Further we asked Tom Kaye and his XO to switch sides prior to game on, but this did not work TK Wanted to keep the low ground. We did not want to be in the castle, WHY? Well EMR History is this. Prior to Shatnerball 2 NO TEAM HAS EVER WON A SCENARIO GAME FROM """HIGH""" GROUND.