X Valve chuffing when rappid firing

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  • mpsd
    Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

    • Nov 2005
    • 2778

    #1

    X Valve chuffing when rappid firing

    Hi,

    I went to play last sunday and one of my X valves is chuffing (and, therefore, not shooting) when I rapid fire it. It has the ULT kit and the Level X. If I shoot slowly, it operates normally and doesn't chuff nor leaks but when I start shooting faster (walking the trigger) it starts to chuff like every ten shot or so, but it's pretty anoying (is that how you spell that word? ). Anyway, any ideas?

    Thanks!


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  • jonny72888
    Registered User
    • Jan 2004
    • 132

    #2
    sounds like you need a better tank regulator
    what kind do you have now?

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    • mpsd
      Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

      • Nov 2005
      • 2778

      #3

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      • jade_monkey07
        Cheater Tac one
        • Dec 2006
        • 984

        #4
        I would think its the level 10 thats SLIGHTLY out of tune, on the verge of bolt stick. OR you could be short stroking the ult.

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        • TheRock
          The one and only
          • Oct 2007
          • 35

          #5
          ill get that chuffing to when i try to walk it with ULT and only at that time. i think it could be shortstroking too.

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          • mpsd
            Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

            • Nov 2005
            • 2778

            #6
            Originally posted by jade_monkey07
            I would think its the level 10 thats SLIGHTLY out of tune, on the verge of bolt stick. OR you could be short stroking the ult.

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            • TwilightG
              www.BigEvilOnline.com

              • Mar 2007
              • 1387

              #7
              I'm no expert, but someone did correct me once in another post explaining how you can still short-stroke a pneu-trigger.

              Although the MPA-3 is actuating the sear, you can still short stroke the MSV. I don't know enough about pneu-triggers to give advice on tuning, but you could try Cyber's magnet mod to increase the trigger return force.

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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #8
                If you are short stroking due to bolt stick, then level 10 shims won't help. You need to use a larger carrier. Remove the level 10 shims when doing this to make sure you don't get shim induced leaking. It will guarrantee that you get the best fit.

                You can short stroke a pneumatic setup. The mag valve only recharges once the sear resets. If you fire the gun before the valve recharges, then you short stroke it. Walking the trigger can reduce the time between when the trigger is released and when it actuates the pneumatics again, thus reducing the recharge time and potentially short stroking your mag.
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • athomas
                  Of course it works-its AGD
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 8039

                  #9
                  If you are short stroking due to bolt stick, then level 10 shims won't help. You need to use a larger carrier. Remove the level 10 shims when doing this to make sure you don't get shim induced leaking. It will guarrantee that you get the best fit.

                  You can short stroke a pneumatic setup. The mag valve only recharges once the sear resets. If you fire the gun before the valve recharges, then you short stroke it. Walking the trigger can reduce the time between when the trigger is released and when it actuates the pneumatics again, thus reducing the recharge time and potentially short stroking your mag. This would be magnified if there is any bolt stick at all that is adding bolt cycle time.
                  Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                  • mpsd
                    Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                    • Nov 2005
                    • 2778

                    #10
                    Originally posted by athomas
                    If you are short stroking due to bolt stick, then level 10 shims won't help. You need to use a larger carrier. Remove the level 10 shims when doing this to make sure you don't get shim induced leaking. It will guarrantee that you get the best fit.

                    You can short stroke a pneumatic setup. The mag valve only recharges once the sear resets. If you fire the gun before the valve recharges, then you short stroke it. Walking the trigger can reduce the time between when the trigger is released and when it actuates the pneumatics again, thus reducing the recharge time and potentially short stroking your mag. This would be magnified if there is any bolt stick at all that is adding bolt cycle time.

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                    • Mongoose
                      VenomousDesigns.com

                      • Nov 2006
                      • 1593

                      #11
                      try using a stronger spring

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                      • mpsd
                        Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                        • Nov 2005
                        • 2778

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mongoose
                        try using a stronger spring
                        Which one? The longer, red?

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                        • Ruler_Mark
                          AKAOG.ORG
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 2600

                          #13
                          Originally posted by mpsd
                          Which one? The longer, red?
                          grey is the strongest

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                          • wahoo5x5
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 28

                            #14
                            Do you have a fast enough hopper to keep up with your trigger fingers?

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                            • mpsd
                              Crazy Brazilian P8Baller

                              • Nov 2005
                              • 2778

                              #15
                              Originally posted by wahoo5x5
                              Do you have a fast enough hopper to keep up with your trigger fingers?

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