Rebuilt the Rt reg and now we got problems

[TeamBob]

Ok, so im deff. not a tech. But all i wanted to do was put new orings in the reg so i went ahead for it.

Put the o-rings in and now the gun will not shoot, well kinda.

Gun has tension on trigger, but not pushing the trigger pin out far enough. If i take a pair lof needel knose and pull the pin out just a little bit farther, it will shot once, but has a constant leak out the velocity hole. Trigger sear wil not resit afterwards.

Im lost. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

[dark blade]

that should be impossible... if you pull the trigger rod out, it pulls the sear so that the on/off pin would not be compressed and it would push the sear farther up on the bolt catch making it harder to fire essentially... unless you actually pass the point of where it tilts the sear tip so that the back doesnt hold the bolt in place (which shouldnt be possible with the AGD tolerances)

after that the problem would most likely be behind the on/off seeing as the air is not getting into the dump chamber or pushing on the on/off to allow the bolt to reset.

try making sure everything behind the front half of the valve is installed correctly and all the o-rings are in good oiled/lubed/greased shape

then get back to us

[TeamBob]

ok

ok, so i went and aired it up again b4 i did anything. Now its venting air very heavly from the velocity adjuster.

[secretweaponevan]

ok, so i went and aired it up again b4 i did anything. Now its venting air very heavly from the velocity adjuster.

You have a leaking seal in the reg or your velocity is too high.

Your first problem might have been bolt stick.

[Spider-TW]

When you change any orings, you need to clean the surfaces they sit on as well. Wipe them dry and then with some oil as long as they are clean (no ridges or spots of old lube/dirt/paint). On the RT reg, clean the inside wall of the reg and the oring slot on the piston. Before you re-assemble, put some oil on the oring so that it can slide in easily.

Slick RT reg pistons make happier RT triggers.

[TeamBob]

ok

OK, so i oiled things up, now when i air the gun 1 of 2 things happens. Either:

1. Gun is silent with no leaks and has tension on trigger, but will not fire
OR
2. the gun will leak out of the velocity whole as well as some other leak coming out out the body from the front of the reg somewhere, but its not leaking down the barrel

Im lost, any other suggestions?

[TeamBob]

umm

How tight should my on/off be sticking in the reg? when i put it in, it pretty much snaps in place, is that normal?

[Spider-TW]

Is this a classic RT reg? Which bolt does it have?

The on/off is usually a snug fit.

Your description of pulling on the trigger rod sounds like the sear is binding. What rail do you have (classic RT rail)?

Considering you rebuilt the reg, did you get the brass seat back in the right direction? Idk if it's possible to put it in upside down. Did you take the reg pin assembly out?

[MANN]

sounds like your reg piston is toast.

If your gun does not leak, and will not shoot you need to turn up your velocity. If you turn up your velocity and your marker will let you shoot, but air is coming out the back it is your reg piston going bad

you can solve this two ways

1 use a shorter spring. IE gold one with lvl 10
2 replace your reg piston. (I sell new ones if you need one)

Just my .02

[TeamBob]

i

i just turned the velocity all the way in and it still will not shoot, should i try a different spring.

*note- gun does not have level 10

[MANN]

it is more than likely your reg assy.

[secretweaponevan]

I would start with taking the bolt out, reassemble, then hold trigger.

With trigger held, gas it up.

Then release the trigger and see gas if rushes out the barrel.

Pull and hold the trigger again if you need to stop the rush of air before degassing again.

This will let you see if air is getting into your marker, past the regulator valve pin and will also check for a functioning on/off.

My guess is that your Piston is not opening your regulator valve pin, or your regulator valve pin is broken. Hopefully it is just that and someone didn't try to superglue a foamie onto the bolt while it was on the valve.

[TeamBob]

i know

i know its not glued together, ive played with the gun once, and it worked fine. Other then needing a level 10 more then any other mag i have ever owned .

But those are great ideas, i woulda never thought of that. I will give it a try and see what happens. Thanks

[TeamBob]

Ok, did that.

Air defenitly went down the barrel. So all is working properly(sp) im guessing. So do i just have a bad o ring somewhere causing my leaks?

[Watcher]

When you open the valve up, you will see on one side a little brass disk with slots on it.

There should be a pin sticking up out of it. Try and wiggle this out, if you need to you can stick a pick into the little hole to pry it out.

This is the reg-pin. See if it is still intact, the orings on it may be shot or the spring pack is bad.

I'm not entirely sure how it reacts when it is broken, I replaced mine as I was overhauling the rest of my RT valve as mine was falling apart (literally) and the entire valve had shot o-rings and leaked everywhere. Never had a problem after replacing just the o-rings and that.

Give it a shot.