Old Classic mag and valve advice please

[Old Baller]

But if it worked fine with the reg before, then it should still work fine with the reg now. So unless you notice horrible shoot down then I wouldn't worry about it.

Yes and provided I stay with the classic valve I am not concerned.... however I am thinking about upgrading to the x valve...... but that might be next year

[Old Baller]

OK hope this works, this is my mag.

Hopefully someone can recognize this grip frame.

[BigTrucker]

UM....... Just buy an Xvalve and drop it in and i think you will LOVE it. It comes with a level 10 bolt already, you just may need to adjust and fine tune it. i think it would look real sexy on that mag

[Old Baller]

UM....... Just buy an Xvalve and drop it in and i think you will LOVE it. It comes with a level 10 bolt already, you just may need to adjust and fine tune it. i think it would look real sexy on that mag

Yeah it would look sick eh? specially with a black ULE body...... if I can find a x valve for a decent price I will buy it..... but a brand new ones just a bit more then I wanna spend right now.

[secretweaponevan]

Looks like a Benchmark frame.

[Coralis]

That looks like a benchmark frame , btw nice looking mag and a armson 8" barrel.

[Old Baller]

Thanks I really love this gun and I want to get her purring again.
So the benchmark frames also have a safety that is only on one side? if this is a benchmark frame any suggestions on where to look for a safety mechanism?

Note I checked the proteam site and they do have the grip frames but I could not spot the safety mech on there I left a message hopefully I will get an answer tommorrow

[tasker89]

That looks like a benchmark frame , btw nice looking mag and a armson 8" barrel.

I agree. Looks like a Benchmark single trigger frame that was chopped. The two finger trigger might be Smart Parts...though I don't recall SP producing an anno pattern like that.

[DevilMan]

If you change the body, you'll have to lose the barrel as well. If you go ULE... the ULE is cocker threaded.

The frame looks like a benchy that as others have said is missing the pull out, push in safety from the left side... and well has the obvious hack job on the trigger guard...

The drop and tank issue is a real loss.... as you say the stuff is reverse threaded... only thing you could do is drop the tank but keep the fittings and put it on a new/better tank. That way you keep the setup matched up and the same.

The anno looks like the KAPP Lava anno to me... but I've never seen a mag with that color... so a rare one I'd say.

DM

[DevilMan]

Sent you a PM... for a safety contact TRACY @ PTP who is a member on here.... just gotta look around....

Also the reg on the bottom IS needed. Though the valve can handle the PSI of the tank I wouldn't care to run 3K straight through the braided lines, gas thru, and QD.....

Today's tanks have regs on them. Your setup does not. I would NOT take that reg off.

Check the PM and get back to me...

DM

[Old Baller]

Devilman thanks for the PM I have sent one back I shoulda read your posts here first but no biggie.

That is a lava splash anno probably by Kapp but I'm not positive.

Hopefully I can get the safety mechanism from benchmark.

If not would one be removable from another benchmark grip cause that'll be my second option.

[Old Baller]

OK finally managed to get some parts up to me here in Canada
First off I wanna thank Devilman for the great advice he gave me through PM's and all the other advice you guys have given me here.

I purchased the level 10 and had her shipped up tossed it in and did the setup, I swapped out the regulator piston for a new one as from reading on here I realized that my old one wouldn't have cut it. I managed to get it shooting but still had some issues. In my kit I only recieved 4 carriers not 5 and they appear to be only 2 sizes and 2 of each size.... one size has no grooves at all (unless you count the o ring groove) and the other size has one groove.... is this right or am I missing something on the sizing..... the setup seemed to suggest starting with a 2 groove carrier which I didn't get. I think I am past the oring/carrier leak but neither 2 shims or 3 shims seems to vent it properly and I can say for sure that I would not be finger testing the level 10 as the squeegee test was rather violent and it had no problem breaking balls

As to the springs I got one that looks like my old spring and 2 big ones one of the big ones is red and the other is grey.... in the setup instructions they say one of these springs should be slightly smaller but they both look the same size and neither appears to have had a coil cut off. IS this right or should I start cutting one? The best performance I had was with the large grey one (I never tried the red as it looked the same) however I did get bolt stick.

Performance wise I could not chrono it so that makes the setup more difficult. However even after swapping regulator pistons I am still leaking out the back.... its not fierce but it starts as soon as I get the velocity adjustment screw in far enough for the valve to kick in (goes whuut and the trigger starts functioning) For this I am gonna try swapping the seal (that hockey puck looking o ring thing) The old one looks fine and fits in good but thats all I can think of

Also I am getting some strange leaking out the side so I believe its one of the on/off assembly o rings so I am gonna swap them out.

Does it sound like I am taking the correct steps? Any input is appreciated. With any luck I will get rained outta work here this morning and will be home tinkering by lunch time

[Old Baller]

I would like to maybe do something with my body (insert joke here) The silver is ok but I think a black would be way cooler. Its a powerfeed left body......

I guess the body is made of steel so does that rule out anodizing?

I found a couple posts that mention duracoat paint can anyone tell me more about it?

I remember seeing the odd gun with powder coating but was never all that impressed with the results. Is it something to consider or does it always just look bad?

What would you do if it was your marker?

[secretweaponevan]

You will have to duracoat or powdercoat it, stainless does not anodize. You can't do the bottom of the body though, it messes up the tolerances between body and rail.

[Konigballer]

my vote is for keeping it basically like it is, but change out the REALLY old MaxFlo reg for the 'newer' Manifold4500 type that can easily be found still. That thing is pure old school goodness!