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  • Chace
    Registered User
    • Aug 2009
    • 66

    #16
    Why? If it sealed properly and didn't stick out anywhere, it would be perfect? Or maybe I am not understanding? Pardon my n00bishness..

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    • roxcreek
      the designated driver
      • Jul 2008
      • 251

      #17
      Originally posted by Chace
      Why? If it sealed properly and didn't stick out anywhere, it would be perfect? Or maybe I am not understanding? Pardon my n00bishness..
      Most likely it's because multiple o rings stacked together is not an effective seal in the slightest, (because that can slide against one another) another reason would be because the surface of the valve is not flat and there is no opposing face to bend the o ring to fit this face.

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      • roxcreek
        the designated driver
        • Jul 2008
        • 251

        #18
        Originally posted by secretweaponevan
        It could mean that you are missing your rail bushing, pictured below, sticking out of the rail behind the sear. Thanks RamboPreacher for the hotlink.
        I wish it were that simple, the bushing is there. The valve and the body don't exactly fit together all to well, in addition to this separation, the valve is incredibly difficult to remove from the body... I have a strong feeling that it is the paint, coupled with the CO2. I'll get back when I can use compressed air and good paint.

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        • athomas
          Of course it works-its AGD
          • Jan 2002
          • 8039

          #19
          If the mag is used, make sure you change all the orings. That way you know you are starting with everything fresh. Old orings could cause consistency issues, especially the regulator seat oring.

          Don't worry about a slight gap between the valve and body. As long as the rail bushing is in place, the field strip screw will hold everything where it needs to be. Does the body have a square front or an angled front? The square front is a classic body. The angled front is a retro/emag body. The pim that the grip frame screw attaches to on the retro body is a bit longer and causes issues on the classic rails. It is easily fixed with a file if that is the case.
          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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          • secretweaponevan
            Only HALF Polish!
            • Sep 2007
            • 1132

            #20
            Originally posted by roxcreek
            the valve is incredibly difficult to remove from the body...
            Degas then pull the trigger. Sometimes the on/off pin will stick down too far making it hard to remove the valve. Pulling the trigger after degas pushes the on/off pin up and out of the way.

            Watch the video manual for automags. You'll learn a metric crap ton about your automag.
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            • roxcreek
              the designated driver
              • Jul 2008
              • 251

              #21
              Originally posted by secretweaponevan
              Degas then pull the trigger. Sometimes the on/off pin will stick down too far making it hard to remove the valve. Pulling the trigger after degas pushes the on/off pin up and out of the way.

              Watch the video manual for automags. You'll learn a metric crap ton about your automag.
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              thanks, I looked through this video one time before I got the mag, but I'll go through it another time. Also, I will get the full replacement kit, I wish that the mag had come with it in the first place though.

              thanks again

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              • roxcreek
                the designated driver
                • Jul 2008
                • 251

                #22
                egomags and wooden grips

                Here's another question:
                When you make an egomag, do you still get the same short stroking issues as you would with a pneumag?

                When making wooden grips for the carbon fiber single trigger, what method should I use to secure the grip to the frame. I noticed that there is a hex hole in the center, but no may to solidly attach them. I would think I could drill and tap something, but are there any instructionals for this?

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                • athomas
                  Of course it works-its AGD
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 8039

                  #23
                  Any mag can be short stroked if you pull the trigger too quickly after the previous cycle. The lighter the trigger pull, the easier it is to do.

                  The wooden grips should be fastened to the grip frame the same way the regular grips are fastened. Use a screw in a recessed hole. That is generally why wooden grips are a bit fatter than plastic grips. You can make the wooden grip thinner by fastening a piece of flat steel or aluminum in a recess in the back of the wooden grip.

                  Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                  • Flatliner333
                    3X MOTY Winner :P

                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1286

                    #24
                    New Mag

                    Look at the many options available for your mag before you start puting any money in to it. You may get grips for that frame and decide you want a double trigger 45* frame. Also after you replace all the o rings in the valve and get the gun shooting like it is supposed to chrono it and shoot it for a bit before you go tinkering with it.This way you can see how great the gun is of the shelf before you make it better with your mods.
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                    • Flatliner333
                      3X MOTY Winner :P

                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1286

                      #25
                      Dumb question?

                      Here is a question I have not seen anywhere.I have 2 classic sears one with a bump behind the front bolt lip and one without. Is the bump relative to the taper on the back of the lvl X bolt? If not ,what is it for?
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                      • roxcreek
                        the designated driver
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 251

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Flatliner333
                        Here is a question I have not seen anywhere.I have 2 classic sears one with a bump behind the front bolt lip and one without. Is the bump relative to the taper on the back of the lvl X bolt? If not ,what is it for?
                        go ahead and post a picture, I'm curious to see what you mean.


                        Originally posted by Flatliner333
                        Look at the many options available for your mag before you start putting any money in to it. You may get grips for that frame and decide you want a double trigger 45* frame. Also after you replace all the o rings in the valve and get the gun shooting like it is supposed to chrono it and shoot it for a bit before you go tinkering with it.This way you can see how great the gun is of the shelf before you make it better with your mods.
                        I have a pretty good idea of where I want to go with the mag, I plan to put a q-loader on it, keep the single trigger, maybe keep the valve and bolt and if I can find enough wood and a spline, I want to try for a wooden foregrip. However, the foregrip and q-loader are where I am the most open to opinions though, I just don;t have any idea on how it'll feel.

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                        • roxcreek
                          the designated driver
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 251

                          #27
                          more wood

                          Are there any tutorials on how to go from a block of wood to a complete grip either here on AO or somewhere else? I have been having to cut down some of the trees on my dad's property to make a field for speedball. I cut down a pretty large tree that I think was a redwood, I would hope to use that or some of the other wood I have had to cut down, purely for sentimental reasons. If none of the wood would be practical to use, I think it would be fine to go and buy some pre-dried wood, that is known to be good for making pistol grips.

                          I'm mostly just looking for the tools, techniques and measurements to attach the grips. Once I know what I cannot do I can carve the grip according to what I think feels good in my hand.

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                          • Flatliner333
                            3X MOTY Winner :P

                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1286

                            #28
                            sears

                            Originally posted by Flatliner333
                            Here is a question I have not seen anywhere.I have 2 classic sears one with a bump behind the front bolt lip and one without. Is the bump relative to the taper on the back of the lvl X bolt? If not ,what is it for?

                            <a href="http://s382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/?action=view&current=Sears.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/Sears.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
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                            • snoopay700
                              Serious About Men

                              • Jan 2006
                              • 3071

                              #29
                              Not the level 10, just there to stop the sear from going too far upward, it was added to later models i believe to make it so that the sear only grabs the bolt and doesn't really run into the spring. Mine is like the bottom one.
                              Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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                              • Flatliner333
                                3X MOTY Winner :P

                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1286

                                #30
                                Bump... no puns here

                                Thanks.
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