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  • Ms54Coupe
    Registered User
    • Aug 2009
    • 105

    #1

    Im back in the saddle with a Micro Mag!

    Hey guys I just won a Micro Mag on ebay and it comes with an air tank and carbon barrel. I plan to get an RT valve for it as well as a LVL 10 bolt kit. I want a fast reliable and accurate setup so this is my platform I plan to work off of! I am pumped!
  • Shirow
    www.digitalgunfire.com
    • Aug 2002
    • 2023

    #2
    Cool man, get some pics up!
    Superbolt

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    • Ms54Coupe
      Registered User
      • Aug 2009
      • 105

      #3
      Will Do!

      Do you guys know if this frame will fit the micromag as a bolt on mod?

      http://cgi.ebay.com/AGD-Air-Gun-Desi...d=p3286.c0.m14

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      • snoopay700
        Serious About Men

        • Jan 2006
        • 3071

        #4
        Originally posted by Ms54Coupe
        Will Do!

        Do you guys know if this frame will fit the micromag as a bolt on mod?

        http://cgi.ebay.com/AGD-Air-Gun-Desi...d=p3286.c0.m14
        Nope, you'll need a washer or something, the back frame screw is drilled out for a classic RT that has a banjo bolt, not a normal field strip screw.
        Il n'y a point de sots si incommodes que ceux qui ont de l'esprit.

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        • Ms54Coupe
          Registered User
          • Aug 2009
          • 105

          #5
          So I would just have to put a washer between the bolt and the frame? But the trigger and frame will mount up fine to the gun?

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          • Ms54Coupe
            Registered User
            • Aug 2009
            • 105

            #6
            So I found this on Ebay and was just wondering...This seems like a fare deal for an RT valve + level 10 bolt kit right?

            Nate

            http://cgi.ebay.com/RT-Pro-AGD-X-Val...d=p3286.c0.m14

            only problem is it is used : /

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            • georgeyew
              Registered User
              • Jan 2007
              • 704

              #7
              Did your Micromag come with a valve?

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              • Frizzle Fry
                AO Micromag Guy
                • Mar 2009
                • 3280

                #8
                Originally posted by Ms54Coupe
                So I would just have to put a washer between the bolt and the frame? But the trigger and frame will mount up fine to the gun?
                No. Classic R/T frames are flat, or "wingless", on top to mount to R/T rails... Most newer frames are this way too, since only Micromags* and Classic 68 Automags need winged frames. If you install an R/T frame on your Micromag there will be nothing there to hold the trigger pin in, and it will be kinda ugly in that it doesn't really line up with the body.

                You'd be better off looking for a winged frame here on AO.
                '


                * If your Micromag is vertfeed (aka, a Micro2000) it will not accept winged rails, and needs a flat one.

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                • athomas
                  Of course it works-its AGD
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 8039

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ms54Coupe
                  So I found this on Ebay and was just wondering...This seems like a fare deal for an RT valve + level 10 bolt kit right?

                  Nate

                  http://cgi.ebay.com/RT-Pro-AGD-X-Val...d=p3286.c0.m14

                  only problem is it is used : /
                  That is not a bad price if shipping is included. These valves have been selling for about 215 shipping included.
                  Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                  • Ms54Coupe
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 105

                    #10
                    Originally posted by georgeyew
                    Did your Micromag come with a valve?
                    Yes it came with the stock valve?

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                    • athomas
                      Of course it works-its AGD
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 8039

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Frizzle Fry
                      Most newer frames are this way too, since only Micromags* and Classic 68 Automags need winged frames.
                      Classic 68 automags didn't use winged frames. Only the original Micromags used winged rails.

                      The micromags requiring the winged rails used the slide in sear pins (standard automag sear pins). The rail wings held them in. If the micromag body uses a screw in sear pin, then it will accept a standard frame.
                      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                      • Frizzle Fry
                        AO Micromag Guy
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3280

                        #12
                        Originally posted by athomas
                        Classic 68 automags didn't use winged frames. Only the original Micromags used winged rails.

                        The micromags requiring the winged rails used the slide in sear pins (standard automag sear pins). The rail wings held them in. If the micromag body uses a screw in sear pin, then it will accept a standard frame.
                        ...That's not accurate. You are correct that classic mags do not need a winged frame to hold the pin in place, but they do accept and use them (with the exception of euros). Modern mags (R/T and R/T Pro) are not even capable of accepting winged frames and require a flat-topped gripframe.

                        The only Micromag that is as you describe is the Micro2000 (vertical feed). It has an R/T style sear pin and is incapable of accepting winged frames. All earlier generations of Micromag (and that is the latest production model) need a winged frame to hold the sear pin in place

                        If you try to stick a flat-topped frame on a Micromag it will fit sloppily and not line up with the body. In that same vein, if you attatch a flat topped (non-euro) frame to a classic rail, it will have a small lip extenting over into the slot along the edge (which was milled out for winged frames).



                        *edit: Here's a rail meant for wings. It'd a 68 Classic rail, but you'll get the idea (the Micromag is set up the same in terms of notches for winged frames).

                        Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 09-10-2009, 03:01 PM. Reason: added pics

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                        • athomas
                          Of course it works-its AGD
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8039

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Frizzle Fry
                          ...That's not accurate. You are correct that classic mags do not need a winged frame to hold the pin in place, but they do accept and use them (with the exception of euros). Modern mags (R/T and R/T Pro) are not even capable of accepting winged frames and require a flat-topped gripframe.

                          The only Micromag that is as you describe is the Micro2000 (vertical feed). It has an R/T style sear pin and is incapable of accepting winged frames. All earlier generations of Micromag (and that is the latest production model) need a winged frame to hold the sear pin in place

                          If you try to stick a flat-topped frame on a Micromag it will fit sloppily and not line up with the body. In that same vein, if you attatch a flat topped (non-euro) frame to a classic rail, it will have a small lip extenting over into the slot along the edge (which was milled out for winged frames).



                          *edit: Here's a rail meant for wings. It'd a 68 Classic rail, but you'll get the idea (the Micromag is set up the same in terms of notches for winged frames).

                          I actually have an original 68 automag that I purchased new in 1993. It did not come with a winged frame. I've never seen a winged frame on one. I also have an older powerfed micromag. It is pre2000 and does have the threaded pin and therefore does not need the winged frame. The standard frame fits quite well and stays lined up using the body screw and field strip screw.

                          The winged frames were meant for the micromags that used the standard automag sear pin. Those micromags had a narrow contact surface on the bottom of the body. Mine has the narrow contact surface but had the threaded sear pin upgrade. It still used the larger diameter pin though. The micromags did not use the retro sear as far as I can remember.
                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                          • rseb4agze
                            Registered User

                            • May 2008
                            • 528

                            #14
                            I've owned a micromag in the past.. You can mount any double trigger frame without wings but will need to glue the pin in place but here's a guy selling a benchmark frame with wings which will work on a micromag.. as far as the mounting hole just get a powerfeed spacer and send it down to use as a washer..

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                            • Frizzle Fry
                              AO Micromag Guy
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 3280

                              #15
                              Originally posted by athomas
                              I actually have an original 68 automag that I purchased new in 1993. It did not come with a winged frame.

                              You are correct in that euroframes do not use wings. I mentioned that.

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