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  • CatoRockwell
    Woodsballer
    • Jul 2008
    • 704

    #1

    Cato's mag rescue help!

    I bought an automag with a ule body and an Xvalve. It was in pretty grimy condition when I got it, but I was able to clean her up, and the only thing it was missing was the foamie in the level 10.

    However, now that I am gassing it up, we are running into a problem: Under 350 fps it will not fire.

    If I turn the valve down below 350 fps, I lose the ability to fire it, the Trigger Rod has no pressure It simply goes dead.

    PLEASE HELP!!!
  • BiNumber3
    Dazed and Confused

    • Feb 2008
    • 1038

    #2
    your carrier for your lvl 10 may be too tight, try going down a few

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    • Ando
      Magusmaximus
      • Jun 2009
      • 4144

      #3
      I never ran into a problem like that. Keep us updated on what you did to fix it.

      If the lvl 10 thing doesn't work open up the back of your reg and see if both springs are there. I have nothing else for ya sorry.
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      • CatoRockwell
        Woodsballer
        • Jul 2008
        • 704

        #4
        I think you may be right, unfortunately I don't have any smaller carrier's. Where can I purchase one?

        EDIT: Ok I found them on AGD's Website. My only problem is you have to buy each size individually. Which one do I buy? It's an xvalve, my other automag never had this problem so I thought the carrier would be the right size since the lvl10 comes with every xvalve.

        There is nothing on the Carrier to indicate it's size... I really don't know what to do. Should I request to send it in to AGD and have them fit a new carrier?
        Last edited by CatoRockwell; 10-31-2009, 12:39 AM. Reason: nm found it

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        • BiNumber3
          Dazed and Confused

          • Feb 2008
          • 1038

          #5
          The carriers go by dots and line, line is 1, dot is .5

          You'll want to try goin up in size tho if it is the problem, lots of lube on the carrier o-ring might serve to fix it temporarily.
          Also what spring are you using? (Silver, red, goldish?)

          Before buying one you will probably wanna check any other possible problems to make sure.

          Do you have any other valves? with a lvl 7? if so you can switch the parts (bolt and entire powertube assembly) and see

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          • CatoRockwell
            Woodsballer
            • Jul 2008
            • 704

            #6
            I've got another xvalve with a lvl 10. should I just swap out the lvl 10 for my other lvl 10 and see if it works?

            the spring it came with was a silver
            Last edited by CatoRockwell; 10-31-2009, 01:58 AM. Reason: answer question

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            • BiNumber3
              Dazed and Confused

              • Feb 2008
              • 1038

              #7
              silver is the strongest spring if left uncut, which means the greatest back pressure on the bolt, and more pressure needed to fire

              If you have a smaller spring, try that

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              • CatoRockwell
                Woodsballer
                • Jul 2008
                • 704

                #8
                Originally posted by BiNumber3
                silver is the strongest spring if left uncut, which means the greatest back pressure on the bolt, and more pressure needed to fire

                If you have a smaller spring, try that
                Wow. Congratulations you hit the nail on the head. I swapped out my Tac-One bolt spring that I've been using onto it. Now it's working just fine. Guess I'll need to order a spring kit from AGD

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                • BiNumber3
                  Dazed and Confused

                  • Feb 2008
                  • 1038

                  #9
                  you can clip that silver spring to length, that's why they were left so long, so users could fine tune the length

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                  • CatoRockwell
                    Woodsballer
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 704

                    #10
                    how much should I cut?

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                    • Shirow
                      www.digitalgunfire.com
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 2023

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CatoRockwell
                      how much should I cut?
                      I would guess if you make it match the spring from your other marker that works, you would be good
                      Superbolt

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                      • AnthonyDStone
                        Tie Dye Artist
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 681

                        #12
                        That's Funny,First thing I Thought Was Spring.Don't Cut it,Stock Springs Are cheap.Just buy one.BTW Level 7 springs work too!

                        Tony
                        :headbang: Stony :headbang: undefined

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                        • TwilightG
                          www.BigEvilOnline.com

                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1387

                          #13
                          Originally posted by AnthonyDStone
                          BTW Level 7 springs work too!
                          While this might work for some, using an L7 spring has been inconsistent for me.
                          Stick with gold or red. Plus it never hurts to have spare springs

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                          • CatoRockwell
                            Woodsballer
                            • Jul 2008
                            • 704

                            #14
                            New Problem

                            Now that I cut the spring I've got the FPS down to where it should be.

                            New problem however, now the RT is incredibly responsive, I don't use an adjustable reg. It will slip into full auto. What do I do?

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                            • CatoRockwell
                              Woodsballer
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 704

                              #15
                              Can anyone help me with this RT problem?

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