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  • emopunker2004
    Registered User
    • Dec 2006
    • 94

    #1

    rt on/off

    i have a classic valve and want a lighter pull. so if i put in an rt on off that will help. do i also need the rt sear parts for it to work?
  • Coralis
    Hyper Micro
    • Aug 2005
    • 1285

    #2
    yes it will be lighter and no you dont need the rt sear

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    • subsonic
      Registered User
      • Dec 2004
      • 13

      #3
      So 35 bucks will get me the RT on/off and it'll fit into the classic valve?

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      • emopunker2004
        Registered User
        • Dec 2006
        • 94

        #4
        i believe that to be the case. heard it cute the trigger pull weight by half

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        • subsonic
          Registered User
          • Dec 2004
          • 13

          #5
          That would be nice. I'm on the stock grip/single trigger. Was looking into the intelliframe a little but I really don't have that many problems pulling the trigger and I don't need to shoot that fast. I'm more about playing well and aggressive as opposed to spray and pray. Maybe I'll get an RT on/off as it's a cheap upgrade.

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          • Coralis
            Hyper Micro
            • Aug 2005
            • 1285

            #6
            you might find one in the BST section of this forum cheaper than 35 dollars

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            • emopunker2004
              Registered User
              • Dec 2006
              • 94

              #7
              i browsed and didnt find any

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              • subsonic
                Registered User
                • Dec 2004
                • 13

                #8
                I'm sure this has been asked before, perhaps we need a sticky for this question

                Just to be sure...

                - The RT on/off can drop right into the classic valve?
                - Will it work with the classic frame/single trigger?
                - Will it only work on Compressed Air?
                - Can I use the RT as an actually Reactive Trigger with the classic valve. Meaning, will it just make my pull shorter or will I actually be able to do that rapid fire thing?

                Thanks! :)

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                • emopunker2004
                  Registered User
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 94

                  #9
                  Originally posted by subsonic
                  I'm sure this has been asked before, perhaps we need a sticky for this question

                  Just to be sure...

                  - The RT on/off can drop right into the classic valve?
                  - Will it work with the classic frame/single trigger?
                  - Will it only work on Compressed Air?
                  - Can I use the RT as an actually Reactive Trigger with the classic valve. Meaning, will it just make my pull shorter or will I actually be able to do that rapid fire thing?

                  Thanks! :)
                  all are true i think except it doesnt RT in a classic valve, just lesser pull

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                  • Flatliner333
                    3X MOTY Winner :P

                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1286

                    #10
                    To get the RT effect ( rapid fire thing) you need High pressure input around 1200 psi from an adjustable HPA tank and enough recharge rate from your valve to support it. The classic valve does not have a high enough recharge rate, to get this you would need an X Valve or RT valve. I have an old A.I.R. valve that is similar to the classic valve that I know for sure will work with a ULT on/off and this will lower the trigger pull force.
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                    • athomas
                      Of course it works-its AGD
                      • Jan 2002
                      • 8039

                      #11
                      The retro on-off is a drop in replacement for the classic on-off. It will not provide reactivity because the regulator of the AIR valve does not route the unregulated input air to the top of the on-off pin. Its the unregulated high pressure air delivered to the top of the on-off pin that gives the retro valve most of its kick.
                      Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                      • viper-mayhem
                        sinisterops.com
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 153

                        #12
                        Make sure to get the quad oring along with the RT on/off. The white inner oring will leak air. By doing this mod, it almost feels as good as my Xvalve ULT trigger pull. My 68 Classic now shoots very fast, especially with my Intelliframe that I now get some recharge problems but thats another thread.

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                        • subsonic
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 13

                          #13
                          Originally posted by viper-mayhem
                          Make sure to get the quad oring along with the RT on/off. The white inner oring will leak air. By doing this mod, it almost feels as good as my Xvalve ULT trigger pull. My 68 Classic now shoots very fast, especially with my Intelliframe that I now get some recharge problems but thats another thread.
                          Great tip. Does that o-ring come with the r/t valve?

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                          • Tunaman
                            Specialized AGD Tech

                            • Dec 2000
                            • 8643

                            #14
                            Originally posted by subsonic
                            Great tip. Does that o-ring come with the r/t valve?

                            http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/in...&categoryID=23
                            The RT On/off assy comes with the small oring. I can swap it out for a quad oring if you like. Email me. [email protected]
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                            Tunamart

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #15
                              If you do use the quad oring, you might want to use a shorter on-off pin. It has two sealing points instead of one in the center. But that also means your sealing point is closer. You need a shorter pin to get back to the standard timing length. Without the shorter pin you reduce the amount of charge time available. It probably won't be an issue, but it could potentially cause shoot down if you are really good on the trigger.
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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