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  • FA22RaptorF22
    AO-CT
    • Nov 2006
    • 593

    #1

    Look here for gun service / tuning

    Not sure if this is the right place for this thread but...

    Ive decided to start offering my following services:

    These services are currently limited to all types of Automags and tank regulators.

    1-> Full gun tuning
    2-> Valve tuning only
    3-> Electronics, valve, or regulator diagnosis and repair

    If your valve doesn't work
    If your gun doesn't power on
    Or if you just want it tuned to perfection

    Work orders done will include detailed pictures of problem areas, as well as documentation on the fixing and tuning process.
    Sample work below:
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    **All valves are tested to 2200psi for leaks and tested beyond 30 bps for reg consistency and shootdown.

    Level 10's are tuned to your specific velocity for maximum effectiveness.

    Carriers are adjusted for the most variable range of temperatures possible.**


    If you need any of these services feel free to pm me.
    Thanks.
  • ochsy
    Registered User
    • Jul 2009
    • 141

    #2
    pmed

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    • SSP REAPER
      FKC Founding Member

      • Aug 2008
      • 1831

      #3
      "Carriers are adjusted for the most variable range of temperatures possible"

      What does this mean? Are you insinuating that the lvl x carriers are affected by temperature?
      Please explain as I am lost by your wording...

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      • Ruler_Mark
        AKAOG.ORG
        • Aug 2007
        • 2600

        #4
        guns are affected by altitude(surrounding psi) and temp(thermo expansion) with the carriers tight tolerances for the oring it seats altitude and temp can effect the lvl 10 of a gun where somewhere else it will shoot tatas

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        • FA22RaptorF22
          AO-CT
          • Nov 2006
          • 593

          #5
          Originally posted by Ruler_Mark
          guns are affected by altitude(surrounding psi) and temp(thermo expansion) with the carriers tight tolerances for the oring it seats altitude and temp can effect the lvl 10 of a gun where somewhere else it will shoot tatas
          Thank you. And correct.

          I have found that its possible to have a carrier fit that is perfect at 80* but has major bolt stick at 20*

          Therefore I tune to the approximate temp range that the user would be experiencing.

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          • SSP REAPER
            FKC Founding Member

            • Aug 2008
            • 1831

            #6
            Originally posted by FA22RaptorF22
            Thank you. And correct.

            I have found that its possible to have a carrier fit that is perfect at 80* but has major bolt stick at 20*

            Therefore I tune to the approximate temp range that the user would be experiencing.
            And what is the inept user to do if the temperature fluctuates? I do not ever remember hearing Tom Kaye say that the carriers are temperature dependant.

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            • FA22RaptorF22
              AO-CT
              • Nov 2006
              • 593

              #7
              Originally posted by SSP REAPER
              And what is the inept user to do if the temperature fluctuates? I do not ever remember hearing Tom Kaye say that the carriers are temperature dependant.
              Well they are...but the o-rings aren't.

              With a 50* difference, I can definately tell that there is more drag on the bolt stem.

              Its just a fact that temperature has a great impact on tolerances.

              But yes, generally, the carrier that fits snug, but not too snug is generally good for most temperatures, so inept users need not worry.

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              • FlawleZ
                Xmodded Karta Emag=sold ;(
                • May 2004
                • 824

                #8
                Originally posted by FA22RaptorF22
                Well they are...but the o-rings aren't.

                With a 50* difference, I can definately tell that there is more drag on the bolt stem.

                Its just a fact that temperature has a great impact on tolerances.


                But yes, generally, the carrier that fits snug, but not too snug is generally good for most temperatures, so inept users need not worry.
                Absolutely. The brass will shrink and expand considerably with a huge temperature range.

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                • FA22RaptorF22
                  AO-CT
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 593

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FlawleZ
                  Absolutely. The brass will shrink and expand considerably with a huge temperature range.
                  Right. I have personally found that each carrier size is good for about a 40* temp range, so I tend to dial the guns in from 40-80*

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                  • SSP REAPER
                    FKC Founding Member

                    • Aug 2008
                    • 1831

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FA22RaptorF22
                    Well they are...but the o-rings aren't.

                    With a 50* difference, I can definately tell that there is more drag on the bolt stem.

                    Its just a fact that temperature has a great impact on tolerances.

                    But yes, generally, the carrier that fits snug, but not too snug is generally good for most temperatures, so inept users need not worry.
                    But basically what I'm asking is who is going to be playing in the arctic cold? I understand the brass MAY fluctuate in size and the o-ring is a given. Don't you think TK would have mentioned something about having to tune your valve for temperature or elevation? I think your just trying to make yourself sound like a genius when you only possess basic knowledge of the X valve and the sort.... at best.
                    Was it not you wondering why your Xmag was having issues and others had to ease you through your learning curve?

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                    • flyingpootang
                      Magtechian with X disease

                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2276

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SSP REAPER
                      But basically what I'm asking is who is going to be playing in the arctic cold? I understand the brass MAY fluctuate in size and the o-ring is a given. Don't you think TK would have mentioned something about having to tune your valve for temperature or elevation? I think your just trying to make yourself sound like a genius when you only possess basic knowledge of the X valve and the sort.... at best.
                      Was it not you wondering why your Xmag was having issues and others had to ease you through your learning curve?
                      Your ignorance is very apparent. You don't need a huge change of temperature to effect the expansion or contraction of brass,or stainless steel. I have to remember to PM Tom and to FYI him I didn't get the engineering metallurgy data sheets of the with any of my AGD products...

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                      • pillage
                        6X Porking Sloppy

                        • Oct 2007
                        • 193

                        #12
                        Damn to think, I have used the same carriers and o-rings from 14F to 103F without issue, just by following the install directions.
                        When trolls run scared. Mrs E, " Doug I will effin cut you!"

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                        • SSP REAPER
                          FKC Founding Member

                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1831

                          #13
                          Originally posted by pillage
                          Damn to think, I have used the same carriers and o-rings from 14F to 103F without issue, just by following the install directions.
                          Same here. My mags work as designed regardless of elevation or temperature with a couple drops of oil...

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                          • pillage
                            6X Porking Sloppy

                            • Oct 2007
                            • 193

                            #14
                            Oh well Smartbox technology at it`s finest, closed bolts shoot further, my mag must be ramping, but damn if I can find where the batteries go.
                            When trolls run scared. Mrs E, " Doug I will effin cut you!"

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                            • FA22RaptorF22
                              AO-CT
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 593

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SSP REAPER
                              Same here. My mags work as designed regardless of elevation or temperature with a couple drops of oil...
                              True...but it doesn't mean that they all will though. That is the point here.

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