Ninja or Crossfire Tank Reg???

[Loneassassin]

Okay, so it's time for me to get my Crossfire tank hydro'd, and I've actually been running a Guerrilla Air Myth reg (with the high-output kit) for some time now. I occasionally get chuffing with my Pneumag, and I know that you want the fastest possible recharge to help with that.

So, my dilemma is: Do I throw my old, heavy, non-functioning Crossfire reg back on, send it in, and take advantage of their $50 hydro and reg swap program?

Or will I be even happier with a Ninja reg which seems to be the current favorite amoung Mag owners?

I know they are both better than my Myth reg...

[georgeyew]

I think that you should give the Ninja regs a try. I've switched all of my tanks to the Ninja regs and I don't have any buyers remorse.

[Alpha {MWB}]

I have heard from many mag owners that Ninja's are bomb. I have a tank and have never had a problem. If you are looking for High pressure and recharge, Ninja has a higher output reg you can have them put on there too (though it isn't adjustable down from there from what i have heard).

[Watcher]

Ninja's are nice as you can shim the springs for different output pressures and feed the 'Mag something it can really react off of.

On the other hand Crossfire regs have always been rock solid consistant and fast recharging.


I'll tell you right now, I have both a Ninja and one of the new style Crossfire regs, and my RT Pro runs better off of the Crossfire reg. I also think it's a lot easier to tech the Crossfire reg since it has wrench flats whereas the Ninja you need to thread in a bolt to use as a tortion bar to spin the bonnet off...

I got the Ninja as a replacement reg for my old style CF reg when it went bad, and I liked it when I had it on my main tank. I bought one of the new CF regs when they were sold at a promotionally low rate just to try one, and really liked how it performed moreso than the Ninja. I noticed my guns shooting a little more consistant over the chrono, it's a more compact reg, and my RT reacted better off of it than the Ninja (though I was using the stock pressure of the Ninja reg).
IMHO the Ninja reg is just a glorified PE reg. Not to say that it's bad, not in the least, but I think the CF one is better designed.


If you want to run a higher than normal input pressure but want non-adjustable, go with the Ninja and it won't disappoint. If you want a no-BS, consistant, high-flow reg then go with the CrossFire.

[crazyjoe12]

^ agreed for the most part lol depends what u want out of your tank.... if alot of reactivity is what ur looking for get that ninja.

[Loneassassin]

Thanks for all your responses guys. I think I might go for the Crossfire reg, simply because I might be able to talk them into upgrading my old one for free since it creeps. Plus, I need the re-hydro anyway. I don't really need reactivity, I just need a good enough recharge that the ULT in my Pneumag resets fast enough without chuffing. My Myth works pretty well, but chuffs a little when I get down below around 1500psi. I'm thinking that even if the Crossfire is just a little better, it will be more than sufficient.

[Rob@NinjaPB]

Hey lone. I just saw this post and wanted to respond. I work for Ninja in their Sales Department and also handle the tech questions under our air systems thread on pbn.

We actually make regulators specifically for automags on a daily basis. We probably ship about 20-30 a week and make these as a special order type item. Our Ninja Master Tech also worked at AGD for 10 years and was their master tech over there. I think its safe to say he knows what it takes to get those mags running optimally with our output pressure.

We are also talking about possibly coming out with a reg designed specifically for mags. We're thinking about an adjustable regulator but having an output pressure that can be adjusted from 900-1200 psi.

What do all of you guys think about this? I would love to hear some feedback from the automag community.

One thing to consider with our reg, loneassassin, is that our company has been around almost 20 years making regulators/air systems for company's such as PMI, NPS, Draxxus, WGP, JT, Tippmann and the list goes on. We also include everything you need to adjust the output pressure from 450-800psi so no matter what marker you decide to shoot, our reg is guaranteed to work with it. We dont make players purchase shim or spring kits to adjust the pressure. Plus, our regs are 100% user serviceable and adjustable meaning you can work on the regulators without having to pay a shop/field or us to clean or fix your reg if you ever have a problem.

Just a few things to consider when looking at regulators.

I hope this info helps. Feel free to get back to me if you have any questions.

[nalby]

We are also talking about possibly coming out with a reg designed specifically for mags. We're thinking about an adjustable regulator but having an output pressure that can be adjusted from 900-1200 psi.

I like that idea put me down for 1

[hill160881]

I can not see a benefit from extra pressure on a Pneu mag. At 850 psi it recharges at over 25 bps. Extra pressure only benefits the RT mag IMOP. But loguzzzzzz would be the one to ask about this.

[Rob@NinjaPB]

good feedback so far. Keep it coming guys. Our ears are open and we're listening

It seems like most of the players buying these regulators from us request an output between 900-1100 psi but we might have the ability to increase it a little more. I would love to hear what you guys think the optimal output pressure range is for all mags. We were thinking 900-1200 but again, we need your input.

Thanks for the help guys!

[SpyderBoy]

We are also talking about possibly coming out with a reg designed specifically for mags. We're thinking about an adjustable regulator but having an output pressure that can be adjusted from 900-1200 psi.

What do all of you guys think about this? I would love to hear some feedback from the automag community.

I would definitely be interested in this. My Myth reg just doesn't cut it for my mag... too inconsistent.

[Spider-TW]

I can not see a benefit from extra pressure on a Pneu mag. At 850 psi it recharges at over 25 bps. Extra pressure only benefits the RT mag IMOP. But loguzzzzzz would be the one to ask about this.

It's not so much the recharge as it is the RT kick on the on/off pin. The extra pressure means more force on the pin to reset the sear (and the MPA-3). Sometimes ULTs can use it just as a matter of resetting themselves.

[Rob@NinjaPB]

Thanks again guys. Instead of making one reg for non-rt mags and making another reg for rt's, we're just looking into how much interest there would be to have one regulator that works with ALL mags. This is great info. Again, greatly appreciated and keep the recommendations coming!!!

[sjrtk]

For a pnuemag i ran the new CF stealth reg on BE M-90 for a bit this weekend, no shoot down and i ran it fast.

@ Rob
I have both a Ninja and Crossfire both recharge great, you guys have a great product they have a great product but your customer service is better. I would be down for an adjustable so i could get rid of my Max-Flo, makes me wand to put a Tampax on my mag.

[Rob@NinjaPB]

For a pnuemag i ran the new CF stealth reg on BE M-90 for a bit this weekend, no shoot down and i ran it fast.

@ Rob
I have both a Ninja and Crossfire both recharge great, you guys have a great product they have a great product but your customer service is better. I would be down for an adjustable so i could get rid of my Max-Flo, makes me wand to put a Tampax on my mag.

Thanks We know that customer service is lacking at a lot of paintball companies so we try and go the extra mile for the players that support our company and products and its great when our customers point this out.

Is there any specific output range you would like to see in an adjustable reg for mags?