hyperframe makes my valve leak?

[joshua.soper]

Alright, i recently bought a hyperframe from the classified forums and threw it on my mag. This is the setup i have:

Retrovalve (stock rt on/off)
ULE mainbody
Hyperframe
Classic rail


I just used this gun last weekend with no probs. I got the ULE body and hyperframe for it today and put them both on. Now it leaks BAD down the barrel but still cycles. I have a classic valve also i tried on the same setup with the centerflag on/off but it leaked too. What am i doing wrong?

[my automag]

You have any way of checking your on\off pin?

It could be the wrong length. Should be around .750, with the quad oring I think.

You could try using a ULT if you have one.

[joshua.soper]

dont have a ULT, ULT is not compatible on retrovalve unless you have it modded by someone.

[river031403]

centerflag on/off

from what i understand if you have a classic valve use the centerflag on/off that came with the hyperframe and they should work according to the hyperframe faq post

[knownothingmags]

from what i understand if you have a classic valve use the centerflag on/off that came with the hyperframe and they should work according to the hyperframe faq post

hyper frames are old.

if you dont have one bran new in the box you are most likely not going to get the hyperframe on off.
most times they are hard to come by.

my $.02
KNM

[joshua.soper]

i got the hyperframe on/off with the frame from the seller, and i used it in the classic valve, but im still getting a bad leak down barrel, not even cycling. With the retrovalve i tried using hyperframe on/off and stock RT on/off and both leaked, did not cycle with the hyperframe on/off. but it will cycle with the RT on/off, but still leaks for some reason.

[BigEvil]

Make sure you have the proper front frame screw. Im not sure if it is the same one for the mech frames or not.

If you are using a retro or rt or X valve, use a ULT with 6 shims in it. If you are using a classic mag and cannot get a Centerflag on/off.. use a RT on/off assembly with a .750 pin. The pin is the EXACT same one that comes in the Centerflag on/off. Only the on/off body assembly is different.

[joshua.soper]

i was thinking it may have to do with the front screw as well. The stock screw was a bit short, and i had to use a diff one that wasnt quite the right length to put it together, im going to try and get one that is the correct fit tonight and try again. Thanks

[knownothingmags]

good luck with it.

i always loved my hyper frame.

sold it back about 2 years ago for real cheap along with a TON more stuff for cheap.

oooops.

KNM

[Coralis]

Since you put on the ULE body and the hyperframe at the same time and got a leak try separating the parts to ensure its the frame causing the problems .... what i mean is try using the hyperframe with the old body first or the ULE old frame with the old frame. Couple of questions for you.
Also are you using the same sear on both frames or different sears ?
Lastly is this a level 10 or level 7 bolt ?

[joshua.soper]

It is a level 7 bolt, i thought about trying with the bodies as well, however i need a new grip frame front screw with the hyperframe regardless of the body i use, i havent been able to get to the hardware store tho bcuz of work.

[joshua.soper]

oh, and the person who sold me the frame sent me a sear with it that i was using instead of my other one

[Coralis]

try swapping sears and see if that corrects the problem.

[joshua.soper]

quick update, i tried switching things around, i put everything back to the stock setup and now it leaks also. It leaks down the barrel badly, and if i pull down the trigger it stops as long as i hold it. No combination of parts works correctly anymore on either my classic valve or retrovalve anymore since i hooked them both up to the hyperframe

[joshua.soper]

So here is a recap of the problem. I had a working classic valve and Retrovalve on a stock tunamag. I replaced the body with a ULE body, and also with a hyperframe. After hooking up the hyperframe on both valves now they are both leaking down the barrel unless i hold down the trigger. I have tried every combination of parts and nothing is working anymore. I took apart the retrovalve and all the orings still appear in perfect condition, lubed and put back together. Still Leaking. Im thinking about buying a lvl 10 kit for it since it is currently lvl 7. Would this possibly solve the problem? Any ideas?