Rare, valuable body. Rare, valuable barrel. STUCK!

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  • Frizzle Fry
    AO Micromag Guy
    • Mar 2009
    • 3280

    #1

    Rare, valuable body. Rare, valuable barrel. STUCK!



    So I have this very rare SS body, it's in immaculate shape.

    It's got a very rare barrel T/L installed, also in immaculate shape.

    They don't want to come apart!


    Anybody had this issue? I don't know if old melted O-Rings, oversized O-rings, bad detents (the barrel takes 3) or accumulated grease and grime (unlikely as it all looks minty and clean) but this barrel doesn't want to come out. I'm afraid of snapping the feedneck, damaging the body or the finish, and all sorts of other things... I've tried heat and lubrication, neither of which worked. I want to preserve the chrome on the barrel and the integrity of the body.

    Any tips?
  • BiNumber3
    Dazed and Confused

    • Feb 2008
    • 1038

    #2
    is the body off the rail? sometimes the frame screw can lock the barrel in place, aside from that, maybe try freezing it then pulling it apart (shrink those o-rings)?

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    • Frizzle Fry
      AO Micromag Guy
      • Mar 2009
      • 3280

      #3
      Originally posted by BiNumber3
      is the body off the rail? sometimes the frame screw can lock the barrel in place, aside from that, maybe try freezing it then pulling it apart (shrink those o-rings)?
      Pulled the body assuming it might be that, or the T/L Assembly.

      I'm left with literally just the body and the barrel wedged into it.

      It's be kind of funny if it didn't suck so much... It's like having two hundred dollar bills superglued together so you can't spend them.


      ***edit***
      God now that I say it I really hope somebody didn't superglue this.
      Last edited by Frizzle Fry; 03-03-2012, 04:04 AM.

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      • athomas
        Of course it works-its AGD
        • Jan 2002
        • 8039

        #4
        Try heat and/or cold. Cold would probably be the best start because the aluminum barrel will contract more than the stainless steel body.
        Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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        • JMD00
          Registered User
          • Nov 2000
          • 290

          #5
          athomas has a good idea, but to expand on it. Take the body and barrel and put it in the freezer for an hour or so. At the end of that time, fill your sink with hot water. Straight from the freezer take the body/barrel by the barrel and submerge the body but not the barrel. Try to twist and pull them apart. Hopefully the body will expand from the hot water the twisting and pulling will break the barrel free.

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          • hill160881
            fire power my friends

            • Jun 2008
            • 1156

            #6
            Soak it in hot soapy water for 30 min or so.
            Fire power my friends.

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            • Ando
              Magusmaximus
              • Jun 2009
              • 4144

              #7
              Originally posted by JMD00
              athomas has a good idea, but to expand on it. Take the body and barrel and put it in the freezer for an hour or so. At the end of that time, fill your sink with hot water. Straight from the freezer take the body/barrel by the barrel and submerge the body but not the barrel. Try to twist and pull them apart. Hopefully the body will expand from the hot water the twisting and pulling will break the barrel free.
              The barrel will swell before the body though.

              Freezing it should bust whatever's holding it in place. Leave it in there for a few hrs though. It might just be dried up paint acting like a glue. If the freezing doesn't work. Hills sugestion is probably your last option before you get the brass drift out
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              • hill160881
                fire power my friends

                • Jun 2008
                • 1156

                #8
                Never forget to try WD40. Especially after soapy water. WD stands for water displacer. It will also loosen any rust.

                If they super glued it then you will need 300+ temp to loosen it.

                I have had this very problem and it was paint and rust and hot soapy water with dawn dish soap worked.
                Last edited by hill160881; 03-03-2012, 09:42 AM.
                Fire power my friends.

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                • my automag
                  mag#1
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 415

                  #9
                  Hehe, another secret here shhhhhh...

                  Use some fuel (gasoline) to soake it for a bit in the spots where it's stuck the most. Try a few times if the first time don't work, it should let go unless welded or something...

                  D.K.

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                  • athomas
                    Of course it works-its AGD
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 8039

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JMD00
                    athomas has a good idea, but to expand on it. Take the body and barrel and put it in the freezer for an hour or so. At the end of that time, fill your sink with hot water. Straight from the freezer take the body/barrel by the barrel and submerge the body but not the barrel. Try to twist and pull them apart. Hopefully the body will expand from the hot water the twisting and pulling will break the barrel free.
                    That is exactly what I was thinking, actually. The heat should travel up the body causing it to expand before it starts to affect the barrel. As long as the hot water is kept away from the barrel, this should maximize the size difference from the body to barrel.
                    Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                    • Frizzle Fry
                      AO Micromag Guy
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3280

                      #11
                      Tried cold, tried heat, tried the freezer-to-hot-water and got nothing.

                      I think it's just the O-rings, as I've tried lubricants and soaking.

                      So.... what will melt O-rings and not kill me or the gun?

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                      • koleah
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 797

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Frizzle Fry
                        Tried cold, tried heat, tried the freezer-to-hot-water and got nothing.

                        I think it's just the O-rings, as I've tried lubricants and soaking.

                        So.... what will melt O-rings and not kill me or the gun?
                        Acetone. Paint thinner.

                        MEK, but that stuff isn't great to be around.

                        Actual heat (fire, blow torch, etc). Hot enough to melt rubber, but not harm the metal.


                        Maybe just suspend the back of the body and the front of the barrel and whack at the intersection with a rubber mallet? That might "crack" whatevers holding it.

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                        • Frizzle Fry
                          AO Micromag Guy
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 3280

                          #13
                          I'm thinking of hitting it with MAP gas and seeing what happens.

                          I just don't want to mar the body or barrel, and there isn't much to grab onto with the body or barrel.

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                          • MANN
                            I am in TN. GO VOLS.
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 4266

                            #14
                            install the rail and gripframe back on the marker. Do not install the twistlock assy. Get a wood dowel and put it through the marker where the valve goes. Use a hammer to hit on it while you are holding the frame with the other hand.

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                            • cougar20th
                              Registered User

                              • Sep 2002
                              • 2330

                              #15
                              I wouldnt heat it, depending on the amount of heat stainless will change colors. im not sure what that temp is.
                              Originally posted by dano_____
                              I keep forgetting to not feed my mags after midnight so they seem to multiply regularly.

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