Mag sitting in closet for 8 years.... HELP!

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  • BTAutoMag
    AO's Problem Child
    • Oct 2001
    • 7199

    #16
    here, found this. my setup

    Paintball Talk is the main forum for Automags.org. Here is where we talk about the sport of paintball in general and make announcements relating to the forum and website.


    PS, Tom loved the setup
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    • BTAutoMag
      AO's Problem Child
      • Oct 2001
      • 7199

      #17
      went to get the tank filled today and the gun was indeed out of air... that gave me the fill at 1/2 price though cause I wasnt very happy with them
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      • BTAutoMag
        AO's Problem Child
        • Oct 2001
        • 7199

        #18
        visited the field today and as of 5 days ago are not doing co2 anymore

        so now I am converting it over to compressed air.

        ran a full 20oz co2 and a tank of air through it and it shot great... until i did some mock paintball roleplaying in the shop...

        long story short I ended up on the floor laughing cause the rubber piece on the lvl 10 bolt came off and shot my boss in the balls

        I pwned him didnt even need a hopper
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        • ochsy
          Registered User
          • Jul 2009
          • 141

          #19
          ahh haa, see another reason to switch over to hpa, I have heard of this many times, the shops dont fill co2 correct and people think they have full tanks. I have kids that come over to play and get thier tanks filled in town for $6 a piece and they never last long, even when I tell them I'll fill them for a couple bucks they still insist on a hardware store to fill thier tanks. Anyway I'm glad it wasnt anything major and your back in action

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          • BTAutoMag
            AO's Problem Child
            • Oct 2001
            • 7199

            #20
            yea funny thing is I was glad I'm not an idiot and not forgetting how to set it up... but I was out of air. and idiot move
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            • BTAutoMag
              AO's Problem Child
              • Oct 2001
              • 7199

              #21
              ok I have run some air through the gun and noticed 2 things.

              1) after a couple shots it stops firing and starts leaking down the barrel until I hold the trigger and then I can go a couple more. I also can't shoot more then 8 bps without it doing the same thing. I have re-tuned the lvl 10 to use the lowest friction spacer and have tried all the different springs (I can't believe I'm proud of packratting those for 10 years) any suggestions?

              2) its a gas hog. I mean seriously. Holy crap. I have chronoed it at 280 and I still can barely get over 1 hopper out of a 48CI tank.
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              • Henchman
                Registered User
                • Feb 2012
                • 269

                #22
                Originally posted by BTAutoMag

                2) its a gas hog. I mean seriously. Holy crap. I have chronoed it at 280 and I still can barely get over 1 hopper out of a 48CI tank.
                that's definitely not normal. You shod be abe to get at least a hopper and 2-3 pods.

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                • athomas
                  Of course it works-its AGD
                  • Jan 2002
                  • 8039

                  #23
                  The average mag should get about 500 shots from a 48ci 3000psi tank and about 900 from a 48ci 4500psi tank. If you are running a short barrel or one with lots of porting, the efficiency goes down and the number of shots will be lower than that.

                  Check your sear. If it is worn, the bolt may be sitting a tiny bit forward and the bolt stem vent hole may be partially exposed causing your leak. The act of firing and the bolt resetting is not always consistent when dealing with a manual trigger. Any additional friction due to the sear or due to short stroking can change the position of the bolt with respect to the vent hole a tiny bit. When you hold the trigger you are allowing the bolt to fully reset without any restriction. Then when you release, everything is fine.
                  Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                  • BTAutoMag
                    AO's Problem Child
                    • Oct 2001
                    • 7199

                    #24
                    I know I'm not short stroking. I've been shooting a mag for a LONG time. I just no longer know the valve like the back of my hand, lo
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                    • Henchman
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 269

                      #25
                      Make sure the field strip screw isn't too tight.

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                      • BTAutoMag
                        AO's Problem Child
                        • Oct 2001
                        • 7199

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Henchman
                        Make sure you don't tighten the field strip screw too tight as well.

                        you mentioned that
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                        • OPBN
                          OldPBNoob

                          • Sep 2008
                          • 5240

                          #27
                          Above, you mention shooting some air through right before saying its a gas hog. Just making sure are you actually shooting paint? When dry firing, it will be considerably less efficient. It may be an obvious statement, but you just mentioned running air through it, not necessarily that you were shooting paint. I'm always amazed at how fast I can blow through a tank of air when I am just teching a marker.

                          Also, did you check the oring on the Level X power tube tip?
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                          • BTAutoMag
                            AO's Problem Child
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 7199

                            #28
                            I checked all the orings in the gun. although i am getting really annoyed and will probably replace them all
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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #29
                              Originally posted by BTAutoMag
                              I know I'm not short stroking. I've been shooting a mag for a LONG time. I just no longer know the valve like the back of my hand, lo
                              That's not what I meant. I actually meant a short stroke as a quick release rather than pulling the trigger too soon after a release. I shouldn't have worded it as a short stroke because it really isn't. A quick release allows the sear to rub the bottom of the bolt before it is reset, adding friction to the bolt reset cycle. It's not a problem unless other friction factors are near the breaking point, at which time any additional friction could tip the scale causing a failure.
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                              • BTAutoMag
                                AO's Problem Child
                                • Oct 2001
                                • 7199

                                #30
                                I've been trying to call the tech line bust GEEZ!!!!!

                                I miss AGDjon
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