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  • Cokrkilr
    Registered User
    • Jan 2013
    • 377

    #16
    From my understanding is the gold/classic spring has the least resistance on the lvl 10, meaning it will still work as it should, but the bolt "hits" with a harder velocity on the paintball, or finger, or 1/2 ball in the breech. So you could still chop with brittle paint

    The red is about 1/2" longer and has more resistance on the bolt, so when the bolt is obstructed it hits with less force.

    The cut to length spring from agd is the longest one that you tune yourself by cutting/ fine tuning to your marker.

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    • knownothingmags
      RKM 3D Designs

      • Apr 2010
      • 4810

      #17
      Originally posted by Cokrkilr View Post
      From my understanding is the gold/classic spring has the least resistance on the lvl 10, meaning it will still work as it should, but the bolt "hits" with a harder velocity on the paintball, or finger, or 1/2 ball in the breech. So you could still chop with brittle paint

      The red is about 1/2" longer and has more resistance on the bolt, so when the bolt is obstructed it hits with less force.

      The cut to length spring from agd is the longest one that you tune yourself by cutting/ fine tuning to your marker.
      thankyou for that,
      it was in my head somewhere i just need to hear it again to bring the file to the front.

      *** issue i am worried about before i go down a size on my carrier,
      the sear resets, but some times doesnt reset to the full, is this a normal thing?
      so instead of resetting to -|
      it resets to here sometimes - |
      super exageration, but even when it dosnt seem to rest to the full rest point i still can fire, whats this mean
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      • Cokrkilr
        Registered User
        • Jan 2013
        • 377

        #18
        I'm not fully following the sear issue, its getting late... haha.

        But, go UP a size on the carrier like on mine for example, from one dot- to one line. And use the same oring inside the carrier in the new one since it is already broken in.

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        • need4reebs
          OutKasT 4 Sho!!!

          • Feb 2011
          • 1441

          #19
          Originally posted by athomas View Post
          That is bolt stick. Your carrier is too tight.

          Check the sear tip where it catches the bolt. If it is sharp, it is ok. If it is rounded or has an indentation, then it is worn.

          this is wats happening dood?

          if your sear was worn it wouldnt latch on to the bolt and could cause rapid firing? but as athomas posted its seems like bolt stick dood.
          http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...8715822556.gif

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          • athomas
            Of course it works-its AGD
            • Jan 2002
            • 8039

            #20
            Originally posted by knownothingmags View Post
            carrier is good i think. from what i can tell its not too tight.

            the sear being worn what issues does that cause?
            The only real way to tell if the carrier is the right one, is to install the next larger one using the same white oring in it. If it leaks with the new carrier when it didn't with the original one, then the original one was the correct size. If it doesn't leak with the new one, then it is a better fit. Always use the largest carrier size that does not produce a leak.

            A worn sear typically causes runaway or hard to control reactivity. The side effect is short stroking which affects the shot to shot consistency. The other symptom is that the bolt sits farther forward which can cause the bolt stem vent hole to be close to the sealing edge of the carrier oring. This can result in a leak that causes you to use a tighter carrier size than what would normally be needed. The tighter carrier size often causes bolt stick issues. Of course, when you try to go to the next larger one you get a leak, so you think you are using the proper one.
            Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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            • knownothingmags
              RKM 3D Designs

              • Apr 2010
              • 4810

              #21
              fixed aparently,
              i went up a carrier size, it was too big,
              changed oring to see if thats the issue no dice,
              put the old carrier and oring in, shoots great.

              *** side note on emode i can put it on semi hit the trigger once and it will bounce full auto. lol its funny, ill have to adjust som there.

              thankyou for the help.

              KNM,
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              • athomas
                Of course it works-its AGD
                • Jan 2002
                • 8039

                #22
                The act of taking the carrier oring out and then putting it back may have altered the parameters enough to make it work for you.

                What firmware revision are you running on your board?

                Is the runaway action on semi due to the trigger rod hitting the back of the trigger, the trigger return magnet set too light, or is it just going full auto until the trigger is manually held or allowed to go fully forward?
                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                • knownothingmags
                  RKM 3D Designs

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4810

                  #23
                  Originally posted by athomas View Post
                  or is it just going full auto until the trigger is manually held or allowed to go fully forward?
                  both ill lightly tap the trigger and it will just bounce, i think its the magnets being weak,
                  and if i hold the trigger down it stops of course.

                  ill get stronger magnet and check it out.
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                  • knownothingmags
                    RKM 3D Designs

                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4810

                    #24
                    and fixed.
                    all work flawless.
                    except for the m90 toxic up top, msv 2 is venting like a mo fo.
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                    • OPBN
                      OldPBNoob

                      • Sep 2008
                      • 5240

                      #25
                      Does the msv vent outside the frame?
                      My AO Feedback

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                      • knownothingmags
                        RKM 3D Designs

                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4810

                        #26
                        Originally posted by OPBN View Post
                        Does the msv vent outside the frame?
                        im a dummy, i wasnt payin attention to where the air leak was coming from, it was my tickler, needed a new oring.
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                        • athomas
                          Of course it works-its AGD
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8039

                          #27
                          Originally posted by knownothingmags View Post
                          both ill lightly tap the trigger and it will just bounce, i think its the magnets being weak,
                          and if i hold the trigger down it stops of course.

                          ill get stronger magnet and check it out.
                          Adjust the spacing of the magnet in the frame above the trigger. With 2 magnets at the bottom of the hole, you get maximum return force. Many use one magnet with an oring spacer under it to achieve the desired trigger pull and return force.
                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                          • knownothingmags
                            RKM 3D Designs

                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4810

                            #28
                            Originally posted by athomas View Post
                            Adjust the spacing of the magnet in the frame above the trigger. With 2 magnets at the bottom of the hole, you get maximum return force. Many use one magnet with an oring spacer under it to achieve the desired trigger pull and return force.
                            yeah, thankyou,
                            easy fix for me.
                            the valve is usually the only thing that stumps me.

                            thankyou for all the help.
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