broke-off CCM fitting in my X-valve, what shoud i do?

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  • yellowmitten
    Rock'n out with my mag out
    • Jul 2010
    • 281

    #16
    Try a screw/bolt extractor
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMrDYJvY0Ts have had to use them on broken studs on my car.

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    • Xmagterror
      Custom Automag parts

      • May 2006
      • 872

      #17
      wow thats ugly. I would think you could take it to a machine shop and they could either burn it out with a tap burner or blast a carbide endmill thru it.

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      • Frizzle Fry
        AO Micromag Guy
        • Mar 2009
        • 3280

        #18
        I really think you should ask CCM what they can do for you; if it wouldnt seal with blue loctite there is something off about the fitting, and coupled with the fact that it got stuck with just torque and teflon tape is screwy too, nevermind it snapping... Screwy. I own several sets of these and you really cant overtorque them (or at least you wouldnt, then theyde mount lower than flush).

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        • FormulaZR
          Registered User
          • Mar 2013
          • 15

          #19
          You might look at a left hand drill bit. Seriously, they make them...it's not like blinker fluid.

          If not, I'd just try a bolt extractor. The "square" ones might be hard to use in this case...but not the "threaded" type.

          Also...there's a reason it broke. I assume it's either cross threaded or has thread locker - you might need to apply some heat to it before you try to remove it. I have had good luck with "jet" type lighters, they seem to concentrate the heat better when you want it, and get hot faster without melting everything around them.

          EDIT: Just read it has a lot of teflon tape on it. I would still apply heat.

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          • Justus
            Justech.us

            • Nov 2010
            • 1515

            #20
            Any updates? I see it's been almost a month since the thread was started.

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            • RT Lover
              nothing special
              • Nov 2011
              • 789

              #21
              Luke!
              Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...lover+feedback

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              • djinnform
                Rental Hunter

                • Mar 2009
                • 651

                #22
                Originally posted by Frizzle Fry
                I really think you should ask CCM what they can do for you; if it wouldnt seal with blue loctite there is something off about the fitting, and coupled with the fact that it got stuck with just torque and teflon tape is screwy too, nevermind it snapping... Screwy. I own several sets of these and you really cant overtorque them (or at least you wouldnt, then theyde mount lower than flush).
                I spoke with Melissa at CCM. She said to try "ED Ming"? (from Flash Gordon?)

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                • djinnform
                  Rental Hunter

                  • Mar 2009
                  • 651

                  #23
                  Originally posted by FormulaZR
                  You might look at a left hand drill bit. Seriously, they make them...it's not like blinker fluid.

                  If not, I'd just try a bolt extractor. The "square" ones might be hard to use in this case...but not the "threaded" type.

                  Also...there's a reason it broke. I assume it's either cross threaded or has thread locker - you might need to apply some heat to it before you try to remove it. I have had good luck with "jet" type lighters, they seem to concentrate the heat better when you want it, and get hot faster without melting everything around them.

                  EDIT: Just read it has a lot of teflon tape on it. I would still apply heat.
                  I bought one of those flamers to make Creme Brulee, that sound like a good idea.

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                  • yellowmitten
                    Rock'n out with my mag out
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 281

                    #24
                    I thought you typed Flesh Gordon! Watch out for those sex rays. you know the one that you get when you look at Lukes mini vert frame.

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                    • barkingspider
                      Registered User

                      • Mar 2012
                      • 415

                      #25
                      Originally posted by djinnform
                      i spoke with melissa at ccm. She said to try "ed ming"? (from flash gordon?)
                      wth......

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                      • splat15k
                        The Beast from the East

                        • Oct 2001
                        • 1227

                        #26
                        Originally posted by barkingspider
                        wth......
                        Electrical Discharge Machining
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                        • RT Lover
                          nothing special
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 789

                          #27
                          Dude email Luke, he does all the mag work and probably can fix it at a low cost opposed to just a shop, he has all u need I bet
                          Feedback http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...lover+feedback

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                          • barkingspider
                            Registered User

                            • Mar 2012
                            • 415

                            #28
                            Originally posted by splat15k
                            Electrical Discharge Machining
                            thanks for dumbing it down to my level! Nothing above 2nd grade please

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                            • djinnform
                              Rental Hunter

                              • Mar 2009
                              • 651

                              #29
                              Okay. I'll ask Luke already. I feel dumb because I sent him a box already this AM for another project and knew that I needed to send him something else as well, but, I couldn't remember what?

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                              • athomas
                                Of course it works-its AGD
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 8039

                                #30
                                You can remove the broken extractor using an annodize process. Take the valve completely apart so that only the section with the broken piece is remaining. Mix up a 3:1 ratio of battery acid to water and put it in a plastic tray. Put a piece of aluminum inside the tray on the bottom. This piece of aluminum has to have an aluminum wire running out of the solution. If you have a plastic grate to sit on the aluminum on the bottom of the tray, it would be great. Connect a +12V computer power supply line to the valve section using aluminum wire or rod. Make sure there is a good electrical connection or it won't work. An aluminum rod threaded into the valve at the field strip screw hole might be the way to go. Run a tap in first so that any annodize in the threads is removed. Put the valve into the solution so that it is completely covered. Connect the 12 negative lead to the wire/rod connected to the aluminum on the bottom of the tray. Turn on the power supply and watch the bubbles coming from the ferrous metals. You might have to make waves near the bubble area to allow the bubbles to release from the metal which will allow new acid to come in contact with the area. After a few minutes, the ferrous metals will be totally dissolved.
                                Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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