Looking for some info an lighter regulator body for a 68classic that I have

[birdinator]

[BTAutoMag]

No way.... you have found it...
the titanium automag valve is FOUND!

[knownothingmags]

vent holes don't do anything.
the purple hue is probably the gold plating that rubbed off
no marking probably a one offer, or is old and has rubbed off, or it was polished at one point.

[vintage]

pictures?

[birdinator]

I will try to get pictures up tonight.
Might I have stumbled onto something?

[BTAutoMag]

You might have. An EXACT weight in oz would be very helpful

[BTAutoMag]

http://www.automags.org/forums/content.php?259-Rarest-Automags

http://www.automags.org/forums/content.php?258-The-Rarest-of-ALL-Mags-%28-I-don-t-even-have-one%29

[knownothingmags]

http://www.automags.org/forums/conte...arest-Automags

http://www.automags.org/forums/conte...en-have-one%29

titanium isn't that big of a deal though. ,

[BTAutoMag]

I know, but Tom wants at least one back and if this is one... it's the first one we've found

[birdinator]

Let me know what you think

[Nobody]

Bob Long put out a reg body, as well as ANS and a couple others. its a nice find. the 8 holes, were a supposed idea that allowed the reg to recharge faster. but no matter how many holes you put it in it, it still has to pas through the on/off and valve body inlet.

[Levi]

Very interesting... I always assumed the "mythical Ti Automag" was a running joke, til I followed the links BT posted. I got curious and took a trip over to engineering toolbox. http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/me...ties-d_50.html


Densities in kg/cubic meter:

Stainless: 7480 - 8000

Aluminum (7050 alloy): 2800

Titanium: 4500


So, assuming the volume of material is the same from one valve to the other... some quick back of the envelope math gives us...

Aluminum being %35 to %37.5 the density of stainless, should weigh 1.7 or 1.8 oz

Titanium being %56.25 to %60.16 the density of stainless, should weigh 2.756 to 2.948 oz


Now considering that the valve has eight holes instead of the one on the SS valve there is a minute amount of weight savings there too.

All signs seem to be pointing to Ti here. I'm really curious if this is one of AGD's valves, or the product of a decently skilled rogue machinist?

Did the AGD valves have eight holes or just the standard single hole?

I guess we will have to wait for Tom to weigh in on this... nudge nudge

[Nobody]

it was called or from Diamond Labs. and Levi, look at my post above yours.

[knownothingmags]

Very interesting... I always assumed the "mythical Ti Automag" was a running joke, til I followed the links BT posted. I got curious and took a trip over to engineering toolbox. http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/me...ties-d_50.html


Densities in kg/cubic meter:

Stainless: 7480 - 8000

Aluminum (7050 alloy): 2800

Titanium: 4500


So, assuming the volume of material is the same from one valve to the other... some quick back of the envelope math gives us...

Aluminum being %35 to %37.5 the density of stainless, should weigh 1.7 or 1.8 oz

Titanium being %56.25 to %60.16 the density of stainless, should weigh 2.756 to 2.948 oz


Now considering that the valve has eight holes instead of the one on the SS valve there is a minute amount of weight savings there too.

All signs seem to be pointing to Ti here. I'm really curious if this is one of AGD's valves, or the product of a decently skilled rogue machinist?

Did the AGD valves have eight holes or just the standard single hole?

I guess we will have to wait for Tom to weigh in on this... nudge nudge

if im correct Mr. K never bought into the 8 hole mod.

[Levi]

it was called or from Diamond Labs. and Levi, look at my post above yours.

You're referring to this reg body right? http://www.baccipaintball.com/agd0278.html#

Let me clarify...

When I asked whether the AGD valves had eight holes, I was referring to the two dozen titanium valves, not the standard stainless valves.

KNM,

I'm sure you're right. It's my understanding that the extra holes have been proven to do exactly nothing for performance. Considering this, I would be very surprised if he had bought into it myself.

Still the weight looks to be about right for titanium, and its always a possibility that someone added the extra holes.