Looking for some info an lighter regulator body for a 68classic that I have

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  • OPBN
    OldPBNoob

    • Sep 2008
    • 5240

    #16
    I thought titanium was supposed to be lighter than aluminum? XMT had discussed running a few parts in Ti for this reason. Rarely happens, but I agree with Nobody, looks like a Hurricane labs back that was stripped.
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    • blackdeath1k
      Registered User
      • Jan 2002
      • 2436

      #17
      The TI I've messed with is not lighter than AL. I thought the point of the original TI parts was because Tom still didn't want to use AL at that point. So he tried TI because it is lighter than SS.

      Although it does look like a hurricane half that has been stripped. The weight doesn't really match up. The hurricane half I sold was feather light compared to the SS counterpart. Also back in the day you used to be able to send your back half in for the 8 hole mod to different shops.

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      • Levi
        Registered User
        • Mar 2013
        • 249

        #18
        Originally posted by blackdeath1k
        The TI I've messed with is not lighter than AL. I thought the point of the original TI parts was because Tom still didn't want to use AL at that point. So he tried TI because it is lighter than SS.

        Although it does look like a hurricane half that has been stripped. The weight doesn't really match up. The hurricane half I sold was feather light compared to the SS counterpart. Also back in the day you used to be able to send your back half in for the 8 hole mod to different shops.
        Yep, the weight suggests titanium here. Aluminum should weigh in somewhere around the 1.7 or 1.8 oz territory, and this most certainly does not.

        This link: http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/me...ties-d_50.html for anyone who wants to run the numbers themselves.

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        • BTAutoMag
          AO's Problem Child
          • Oct 2001
          • 7199

          #19
          The plot thickens
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          • Levi
            Registered User
            • Mar 2013
            • 249

            #20
            I hate to say it... but after some google searching it appears that Diamond Labs made these reg bodies in both aluminum and titanium.

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            As cool as it would be to have this be one of the missing 2 dozen, it doesn't appear to be the case.

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            • blackdeath1k
              Registered User
              • Jan 2002
              • 2436

              #21
              Learn something new every day. But it is TI

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              • Runamok
                http://www.automags.org/fo
                • Oct 2004
                • 866

                #22
                So if the TI valves looked just like the SS and weight wasn't that much different, How would anyone know if they had one of the TI valves? Were they serial #'ed? I'd say TK knows what he's looking for, but how would we know? They gotta be somewhere.It'd be like your birthday,Christmas, and the lotto all at once to find one.
                I took the road least traveled...now where the hell am I ?

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                • birdinator
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 62

                  #23
                  Thank you for the response on my post. Learned a lot today.

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                  • blackdeath1k
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 2436

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Runamok
                    So if the TI valves looked just like the SS and weight wasn't that much different, How would anyone know if they had one of the TI valves? Were they serial #'ed? I'd say TK knows what he's looking for, but how would we know? They gotta be somewhere.It'd be like your birthday,Christmas, and the lotto all at once to find one.
                    The only way anyone would know would be to gut the valve and weigh it. They we're not intentionally shipped. That's the whole point. And also why none have been found yet. Out of the thousands of mags that were sold how many do you think were owned by someone that had a clue? Or owned multiple mags to maybe question why one valve weighs less than the other.

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                    • teichild
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 86

                      #25
                      I have a light purple valve and its an 8 hole LABS. not sure if its anything special cas my friends and I all had them back in the day.

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                      • Runamok
                        http://www.automags.org/fo
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 866

                        #26
                        I've played with Mags for a long time and only started hearing about the mythical TI valve in the last year and a half. I though it was like a running joke. My luck I had one and was clueless. Still 20 of thousands are better odds then the lotto, and now I know what to look for. Yeah right! But you can always dream.
                        I took the road least traveled...now where the hell am I ?

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                        • Sk8ermog
                          MOG = Man of God

                          • May 2002
                          • 4001

                          #27
                          Originally posted by blackdeath1k
                          The only way anyone would know would be to gut the valve and weigh it. They we're not intentionally shipped. That's the whole point. And also why none have been found yet. Out of the thousands of mags that were sold how many do you think were owned by someone that had a clue? Or owned multiple mags to maybe question why one valve weighs less than the other.
                          I thought I remember reading that if you took a dremel to the valve that it would spark bright white vs steel's red like spark. I have about 4-5 classic valves in my gearbox that I'm half tempted to take my dremel to, but it makes me nervous.



                          Here is some more info:



                          Also looks like someone else had the same question you did and took a dremel to a Diamond Lab's valve body.

                          Last edited by Sk8ermog; 01-26-2014, 12:04 AM.

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                          • Laku
                            Registered User

                            • Nov 2012
                            • 940

                            #28
                            Weight should be as good indicator and not destroy/mar the valve.

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                            • athomas
                              Of course it works-its AGD
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 8039

                              #29
                              The reason people think titanium is lighter than aluminum is because you can use less metal and still retain greater structural strength than with aluminum. The end result is a lighter object when using titanium. This doesn't work with items that are required to be an identical size for all aspects.
                              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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