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  • thehackleguy
    Registered User
    • Feb 2014
    • 14

    #1

    Less reactivity

    So I have a mag again, the last mag I had around 1994 or so. This thing is a Beast! I would like to use the X-valve I have for mechanical leages but it is really an unfair advantage. Is there a pressure range that will allow me to have a light RT trigger without ramping like strings? I picked up a smart valve and played with that last night, it works great but the trigger is pretty heavy and I'd like to fix that if I can. Any advice would be great.
  • need4reebs
    OutKasT 4 Sho!!!

    • Feb 2011
    • 1441

    #2
    wat on/off are you using in your X-Valve? can ya give more info about your set up so its easier to give ya advice man???
    http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...8715822556.gif

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    • captian pinky
      Bearded Works

      • Oct 2004
      • 2755

      #3
      you can make a xvalve full semi by adding another oring between the reg section on the little brass piece. should be the same size as the oring that stays in the reg section when you remove in. you can also replace the top inner on/off oring and it should slow it down because it will no longer be broken in.

      classic valve trigger can be made lighter using an rt on/off with the stock pin. dont try the ult because you will have short stroking issues.

      think that's what you wanted.

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      • thehackleguy
        Registered User
        • Feb 2014
        • 14

        #4
        Thanks for the advice guys, I'll pull the on/off out and see what is in the X-valve. When I got it a few weeks ago it worked fine so I didn't pull it apart at all.

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        • Spider-TW
          U R techno-literate!

          • Oct 2006
          • 3554

          #5
          You can lower the input pressure to fade the reactivity on a regular RT on/off. The ULT reduces reactivity also, but a higher input pressure will help its reliability. So somewhere between the two, you can find something that matches your bottle setup and your stable of mags to your trigger preference. A ULT at higher pressure will bounce relatively fast, but very lightly. An RT on/off at lower pressure will bounce harder, but at a slower rate.

          You can also match your trigger to your feed system, so that you can RT in bits without having to run a high dollar force feeder.

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          • Nobody
            Nobody's Perfect
            • Oct 2001
            • 3384

            #6
            get a .750 on/off pin and that should eliminate reactivity. use a normal HP tank(800psi or so) and you shouldn't get any reactivity.

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            • BTAutoMag
              AO's Problem Child
              • Oct 2001
              • 7199

              #7
              Originally posted by Nobody View Post
              get a .750 on/off pin and that should eliminate reactivity. use a normal HP tank(800psi or so) and you shouldn't get any reactivity.
              you mean like this .750 pin?

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              • Laku
                Registered User

                • Nov 2012
                • 940

                #8
                Originally posted by Nobody View Post
                get a .750 on/off pin and that should eliminate reactivity. use a normal HP tank(800psi or so) and you shouldn't get any reactivity.
                I still get reactivity with .750 on my main x-valve. With about 800psi output.

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                • Spider-TW
                  U R techno-literate!

                  • Oct 2006
                  • 3554

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Laku View Post
                  I still get reactivity with .750 on my main x-valve. With about 800psi output.
                  What kind of bottle reg is that with?

                  Yeah, worn-in and lubed, maybe a slightly thicker rail or looser field strip screw, they can take off. The more they RT, the easier it seems to get.

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                  • Laku
                    Registered User

                    • Nov 2012
                    • 940

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spider-TW View Post
                    What kind of bottle reg is that with? Yeah, worn-in and lubed, maybe a slightly thicker rail or looser field strip screw, they can take off. The more they RT, the easier it seems to get.
                    Ninja HP and shadow rail.

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                    • Spider-TW
                      U R techno-literate!

                      • Oct 2006
                      • 3554

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Laku View Post
                      Ninja HP and shadow rail.
                      Yeah, my 800 psi old crossfire can keep up but will only rt once . Makes decent doubles, but has no backbone when you really want it.

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                      • burscott
                        Playing since '91
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 119

                        #12
                        A benchmark frame with the fat trigger pretty much eliminates that RT effect since it moves the sear differently. At least that's been my experience. Here is the type of frame I'm talking about on a micromag. I later had 1200 psi on it, and couldn't get much RT:

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                        • thehackleguy
                          Registered User
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Ok, I've been looking and I think the on/off assembly is the ULT version. I bought it as a Tac-one but I didn't know if it was built up that way or purchased as a Tac-one. Looks like it was purchased that way.

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                          • OPBN
                            OldPBNoob

                            • Sep 2008
                            • 5240

                            #14
                            Originally posted by thehackleguy View Post
                            Ok, I've been looking and I think the on/off assembly is the ULT version. I bought it as a Tac-one but I didn't know if it was built up that way or purchased as a Tac-one. Looks like it was purchased that way.
                            Post a picture up and we can confirm. Taking the guesswork out of your set up helps to give the proper advice.
                            My AO Feedback

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                            • thehackleguy
                              Registered User
                              • Feb 2014
                              • 14

                              #15
                              Originally posted by OPBN View Post
                              Post a picture up and we can confirm. Taking the guesswork out of your set up helps to give the proper advice.
                              Looks exactly like this:ULT.jpg
                              Last edited by thehackleguy; 02-17-2014, 08:44 AM.

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