Old School MiniMag Bolt Stuck in Barrel

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  • Jerb
    Registered User
    • Mar 2014
    • 8

    #1

    Old School MiniMag Bolt Stuck in Barrel

    Greetings.

    please excuse me for being a 1 time signup and poster

    I've been out of paintball for 2 years since my daughter was Born.

    my Brother gave me his busted up oldschool Minimag a year or so ago, and i'm just gassin' her up now.


    These are the issues.

    1) when first gassed up, air came out the back vent.= i stripped and oiled all o-rings. no longer leaks
    -there is a big spring that looks a tad rusted

    2) Now when gassing up trigger charges fine into place, but when i fire the bolt doesn't cycle back, it stays in the barrel.
    - i can push the barrel back into place with a squeegee, when doing so i hear a click, almost like a sear.

    little help would be great.

    NOTE: this is a Stock mechanical minimag, nothing fancy

    im guessing im going to need a rebuild kit either way by the end of this.

    thanks yall
  • Levi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 249

    #2
    So when you gas it up now, it fires once and the bolt does not reset?

    How hard do you have to push on the bolt to get it to reset?

    Sounds like a weak bolt spring perhaps.

    I would recommend having a parts kit handy regardless. If it is the bolt spring, the kit comes with one.

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    • vintage
      Registered User

      • Aug 2013
      • 1787

      #3
      might benefit from a good cleaning, check the inside of the body for goop and also the bolt and put a little oil on the tube the bolt sets on and levi is probably right about the bolt spring.

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      • Jerb
        Registered User
        • Mar 2014
        • 8

        #4
        Originally posted by Levi
        So when you gas it up now, it fires once and the bolt does not reset?

        How hard do you have to push on the bolt to get it to reset?
        That's Right Bang, no cycle

        Now to push the bolt back, it's hard to say how much cause i'm being rather gentle with the pressure. I'm used to working on Cockers ( HIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS ) and one push too hard can mess those puppies up good.

        If it helps any, when the bolt is stuck in the barrel i can't take the barrel off. i can twist lock out, and spin the barrel, but it wont come out. I can old hear the spring making noise as i spin as well ( i'm sure that irrelevant but hey ever little clue helps )

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        • vintage
          Registered User

          • Aug 2013
          • 1787

          #5
          check your barrel for wear

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          • Levi
            Registered User
            • Mar 2013
            • 249

            #6
            Originally posted by Jerb
            That's Right Bang, no cycle

            Now to push the bolt back, it's hard to say how much cause i'm being rather gentle with the pressure. I'm used to working on Cockers ( HIIIIIISSSSSSSSSS ) and one push too hard can mess those puppies up good.

            If it helps any, when the bolt is stuck in the barrel i can't take the barrel off. i can twist lock out, and spin the barrel, but it wont come out. I can old hear the spring making noise as i spin as well ( i'm sure that irrelevant but hey ever little clue helps )
            Like Vintage said, a good cleaning if you haven't done so already. I could see it doing this if there was a bunch of paint and gunk built up around the sear.

            The barrel thing is kinda interesting...
            Degas the marker and remove the bolt and barrel. Without any bolt spring in place, make sure the bolt slides into the barrel freely by hand. Could be a ding or other sort of damage to the barrel that's dragging on the bolt.

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            • Jerb
              Registered User
              • Mar 2014
              • 8

              #7
              check your barrel for wear
              Like Vintage said, a good cleaning if you haven't done so already. I could see it doing this if there was a bunch of paint and gunk built up around the sear.

              The barrel thing is kinda interesting...
              Degas the marker and remove the bolt and barrel. Without any bolt spring in place, make sure the bolt slides into the barrel freely by hand. Could be a ding or other sort of damage to the barrel that's dragging on the bolt.
              Will do tomorrow and will update

              thanks a Mil for your help so far

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              • Laku
                Registered User

                • Nov 2012
                • 940

                #8
                How far does your bolt spring protrude beyond the bolt face?

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                • Jerb
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 8

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Laku
                  How far does your bolt spring protrude beyond the bolt face?
                  Originally posted by vintage
                  check your barrel for wear
                  Originally posted by Levi
                  Like Vintage said, a good cleaning if you haven't done so already. I could see it doing this if there was a bunch of paint and gunk built up around the sear.

                  The barrel thing is kinda interesting...
                  Degas the marker and remove the bolt and barrel. Without any bolt spring in place, make sure the bolt slides into the barrel freely by hand. Could be a ding or other sort of damage to the barrel that's dragging on the bolt.
                  I've taken some Photos so you can all see what im working with.

                  Barrel has a little wear only on that side pictured


                  picture shows how far spring protudes past bolt face, along with rust


                  not sure if relevant but this is what this part looks like what ever it may be

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                  • vintage
                    Registered User

                    • Aug 2013
                    • 1787

                    #10
                    replace that spring and from the color of your O-rings I would go thru the whole valve. get a scotch brite pad and clean all the spots off of the bolt and the end of the valve and it looks like the end of the barrel could use cleaning and probably the inside of the body. put a little oil on the outside of the bolt as well as inside when you reassemble.

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                    • Jerb
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Originally posted by vintage
                      replace that spring and from the color of your O-rings I would go thru the whole valve. get a scotch brite pad and clean all the spots off of the bolt and the end of the valve and it looks like the end of the barrel could use cleaning and probably the inside of the body. put a little oil on the outside of the bolt as well as inside when you reassemble.
                      that picture i have of the valve, is that as much as i can take apart or is there more O-inside?

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                      • Levi
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 249

                        #12
                        Yep... what Vintage said ^^

                        Video walkthrough for teardown and rebuild:




                        *edit*
                        There is more to the valve than what you have pictured... video should make everything clear

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                        • Laku
                          Registered User

                          • Nov 2012
                          • 940

                          #13
                          The bolt spring definitely looks like it's in need of a replacement.

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                          • blackdeath1k
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 2436

                            #14
                            There is something like 20 Orings in a mag. All very easy to replace.

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                            • blackdeath1k
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2002
                              • 2436

                              #15
                              Um guys! Check the barrel pick out closely. On my phone that looks like a broken old V nubbin. Sometimes when them broke they would bend forward and make the bolt STICK when fired.

                              Does that piece of wire in the side of the barrel push through the slot and out of the way freely by hand?

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