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  • Jerb
    Registered User
    • Mar 2014
    • 8

    #16
    Originally posted by blackdeath1k
    Um guys! Check the barrel pick out closely. On my phone that looks like a broken old V nubbin. Sometimes when them broke they would bend forward and make the bolt STICK when fired.

    Does that piece of wire in the side of the barrel push through the slot and out of the way freely by hand?
    Oh ****. ****in' Sherlock here.....sorry i got a little excited. i had not noticed that wire before. but ya that wire is wrapped around into the barrel

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    • Levi
      Registered User
      • Mar 2013
      • 249

      #17
      Originally posted by blackdeath1k
      Um guys! Check the barrel pick out closely. On my phone that looks like a broken old V nubbin. Sometimes when them broke they would bend forward and make the bolt STICK when fired.

      Does that piece of wire in the side of the barrel push through the slot and out of the way freely by hand?
      Good eye blackdeath!


      Jerb:
      I'd still recommend a good cleaning and parts kit anyway, just to ensure continued trouble free operation. Parts kit should include a couple of the new style detents too.

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      • Jerb
        Registered User
        • Mar 2014
        • 8

        #18
        Originally posted by Levi
        Good eye blackdeath!


        Jerb:
        I'd still recommend a good cleaning and parts kit anyway, just to ensure continued trouble free operation. Parts kit should include a couple of the new style detents too.


        will do. now where that wire was bent over there is a little flair of metal, the bolt does slide through now, but i think i can feel bolt scraping a little on it. is shaving that down a little safe? or should a scrap the barrel?

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        • blackdeath1k
          Registered User
          • Jan 2002
          • 2436

          #19
          Originally posted by Levi
          Good eye blackdeath!


          Jerb:
          I'd still recommend a good cleaning and parts kit anyway, just to ensure continued trouble free operation. Parts kit should include a couple of the new style detents too.
          Yup I'm all for a new parts kit too. Them Orings Re who knows how old. They may work right now. But will most likely break doen quick.

          And it was more a deal of I've delt with that a few times back in the day with the old v nubbins. I'm still not sure if I like the plastic or P nubbins better. But since plastic is all that is out there. That's what I've got.

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          • blackdeath1k
            Registered User
            • Jan 2002
            • 2436

            #20
            Sand it down a little. No big deal. Just make sure its smooth when your done. Or leave it and let the bolt buff it if it isn't breaking paintballs. The barrel is nowhere near as hard as the bolt if its a basic AL barrel.

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            • Levi
              Registered User
              • Mar 2013
              • 249

              #21
              Originally posted by Jerb
              will do. now where that wire was bent over there is a little flair of metal, the bolt does slide through now, but i think i can feel bolt scraping a little on it. is shaving that down a little safe? or should a scrap the barrel?
              There isn't any safety issue in sanding/filing down a burr here. A small fine tooth round file or some fairly fine sandpaper wrapped around a dowel/pencil/something else is probably your best bet. If you absolutely butcher it, the worst you'll do is ruin the barrel. With a little care, I'm sure you won't have any problem.

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              • Jerb
                Registered User
                • Mar 2014
                • 8

                #22
                thanks A lot everyone. i've been playing since 96' and never dealt with mags. i feel like a noob again calling field owners asking why my Bass Eagle Poison is leaking air down the barrel.

                i'll update with pics and maybe vid when everything is up and running

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                • Levi
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 249

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Jerb
                  thanks A lot everyone. i've been playing since 96' and never dealt with mags. i feel like a noob again calling field owners asking why my Bass Eagle Poison is leaking air down the barrel.

                  i'll update with pics and maybe vid when everything is up and running
                  BTW... welcome to AO

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                  • blackdeath1k
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2002
                    • 2436

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Jerb
                    thanks A lot everyone. i've been playing since 96' and never dealt with mags. i feel like a noob again calling field owners asking why my Bass Eagle STINGRAY is leaking air down the barrel.

                    i'll update with pics and maybe vid when everything is up and running
                    There. I fixed your post ;-P. haha. Seriously though. If you could deal with an autococker your golden with a mag. I love cockers but to lazy to mess with one when the time arises. Mags literally only have a handful of things that can even go wrong. Welcome to the forums.

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                    • Stealthpanda
                      Registered User
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 129

                      #25
                      By handful, he means like... 3 things total.

                      Thanks,
                      Jason

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                      • skipdogg
                        OG & HNIC
                        • Nov 2000
                        • 1392

                        #26
                        That wire barrel nubbin has been put in upside down. thats why the metel piece is going down the barrel. the "v" bump out should be inside the barrel, not outside. Flip that wire nubbin and change the bolt spring. should be good to go after that!
                        OLD AO FEEDBACK

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                        • athomas
                          Of course it works-its AGD
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8039

                          #27
                          Originally posted by vintage
                          put a little oil on the outside of the bolt as well as inside when you reassemble.
                          Do not ever put any oil on the bolt spring or bolt. The oil will transfer to the inside of the barrel and to the sides of the balls. It will cause the balls to spin when fired and the gun will become very inaccurate. Keep the bolt and spring clean.
                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                          • blackdeath1k
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2002
                            • 2436

                            #28
                            Originally posted by skipdogg
                            That wire barrel nubbin has been put in upside down. thats why the metel piece is going down the barrel. the "v" bump out should be inside the barrel, not outside. Flip that wire nubbin and change the bolt spring. should be good to go after that!

                            Skip. The nubbin was put in correctly. It had broke and folded around the inside of the barrel. Somewhat common back in the day when they broke. I'd imagine that was part of the reason for the P nubbins introduction. But I can totally see your thought process on that. Especially if the broken V nubbin wasn't something you redilly messed with.

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                            • skipdogg
                              OG & HNIC
                              • Nov 2000
                              • 1392

                              #29
                              Originally posted by blackdeath1k
                              Skip. The nubbin was put in correctly. It had broke and folded around the inside of the barrel. Somewhat common back in the day when they broke. I'd imagine that was part of the reason for the P nubbins introduction. But I can totally see your thought process on that. Especially if the broken V nubbin wasn't something you redilly messed with.
                              A wire barrel nubbin should never be on the inside going down the barrel like that. At a minimum its messed up and needs to be replaced. But i still say it looks like the "v" part is on the outside of the barrel....
                              OLD AO FEEDBACK

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                              • blackdeath1k
                                Registered User
                                • Jan 2002
                                • 2436

                                #30
                                Originally posted by skipdogg
                                A wire barrel nubbin should never be on the inside going down the barrel like that. At a minimum its messed up and needs to be replaced. But i still say it looks like the "v" part is on the outside of the barrel....
                                It is messed up. The V breaks and the bolt folds the remainder around the barrel to the front. Then when the marker fires the bolt gets stuck on the little tab that is folded forward. Hence the bolt having to be pushed back by hand. All I ever did when this would happen was remove the broken nubbin and replace. Wasn't that big of a deal. Just an annoyance if in the middle of a game. I do see where your mindset is with this issue. I was one that played with a mag and dealt with them back in the day. It wasn't a big deal. Just now no one even thinks about that as ever being a potential firing problem.

                                OP also commented that that was the issue after it was pointed out.

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