xvalve leak

[Cyco-Dude]

Now that i reread this i think i have the wrong orings in the pin. The one i have are white and hard. Almost plastic, like the lvl x power tube one. I have some 90 durometer that aren't as hard. Just not the size i need. I just ordered some from McMaster. I'm an ass. Thanks guys. I'll update as soon as they come in

"white and hard, almost plastic" sounds like the teflon o-rings used in classic on/offs. they would be the same size. the lvl 10 power tube o-rings are not plastic though? they are urethane, just like regular power tube o-rings (although two sizes smaller).

[Boobie817]

Guys I'm forever indebted to your knowledge. I had the right size just wrong type. Put some buna 90s in there with some oil and it sealed right up. Now it's the silent killer I missed. I was beyond upset that this was going to end up a shelf queen. Thank you all.

[athomas]

If you use buna orings, be careful using CO2. The buna orings don't work well with CO2. That is why the orings in mags are urethane.

[Cyco-Dude]

If you use buna orings, be careful using CO2. The buna orings don't work well with CO2. That is why the orings in mags are urethane.

lol, it's for an x-valve...i don't think people use c02 with those!

[Boobie817]

lol, it's for an x-valve...i don't think people use c02 with those!

Xvalve doesn't work with CO2 from what I remember. There's still a slight leak. Guess I have to order urethane on Monday.

[Tunaman]

Xvalve doesn't work with CO2 from what I remember. There's still a slight leak. Guess I have to order urethane on Monday.

If you are not using AGD orings then you have the wrong ones. These orings are hand picked for spec so don't use the cheap ones. The Buna orings will not last and will get little black particles throughout your valve all over your new orings. Get a parts kit and use the right ones.

[Boobie817]

If you are not using AGD orings then you have the wrong ones. These orings are hand picked for spec so don't use the cheap ones. The Buna orings will not last and will get little black particles throughout your valve all over your new orings. Get a parts kit and use the right ones.

Unfortunately I'm cheap and not paying $25 for 2 orings.

[athomas]

lol, it's for an x-valve...i don't think people use c02 with those!

Yeah. I was in a hurry and wasn't thinking about that. We all have our senior moments.

[athomas]

Unfortunately I'm cheap and not paying $25 for 2 orings.

You should have a complete kit anyway, just so you have all the right orings for any issue that might come up. I tried non-AGD orings a long time ago. I had issues with them and eventually threw them out. I don't use anything but AGD orings in any of my mags now. Its just not worth the hassle.

[Boobie817]

Update
Tunaman was able to get me the orings I needed. After replacing them and retuning my level 10, I'm happy to say my baby is back. He is truly a god among men. We are not worthy, we are not worthy. Thanks to everyone who helped me troubleshoot and look outside the box.

[Boobie817]

UPDATE
The valve has sealed up and no longer leaks. However it seems that the level X is eating orings for some reason. I tune it still it stops leaking. Put it away. Check again the next day and it's leaking. It's a vicious cycle at this point. I check the inner shaft of the bolt that passes through the oring and can't see any thing that would damage the rings. I even cleaned that area several times. Any suggestions?

[Nobody]

Stupid question, have you oiled it? After tuning it, or even as it leaks, did you out in some oil? Most leaks are a result of dry orings and not necessarily a bad oring. If you are tearing it apart and using your hands, the lube could very well be coming off the parts. Put 3 drops of oil(KC Troublefree or the ne w version of it-which i forget the exact name) in the ASA or even direct into the airline and gas it up. Shoot it through and generally the leak stops.

Also, with this new leak, where is it coming from?

[athomas]

Yes, identify exactly where it is leaking from. Is it the same leak out the side as before, or is it a leak out the front, or some other location?

[Boobie817]

It's leaking from the power tube. At first it seals. The more I shoot, the more it leaks. When I hold the trigger it has a really slight almost unnoticeable leak. Move down in carrier, oil everything and the same thing happens. Gone through 4 orings already. I'm thinking the bolt has a imperfection on it that is damaging the oring as I shoot. The first few shots are OK. Then the leak starts and gets more prominent as I shoot. I'm lost here, again. These are AGD orings. The ones that came with the level x

[athomas]

The level 10 bolt is so sensitive, that it must have an oring seal that is just tight enough to seal, but not too tight to cause sticking. The carriers are sized so that you can adjust the tension on your oring because each oring is slightly different. Each time you change a level 10 carrier oring, you need to tune your level 10 bolt using the carriers. Don't just change the oring without making sure the tension is proper by using the loosest carrier that does not produce a leak.

Do you have all the shims removed from your powertube? Shims can cause the vent hole to be slightly exposed, resulting in an intermittent leak. Holding the trigger and hearing a slight hiss is one of the symptoms of this.