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  • Bosgarage57
    Registered User
    • Nov 2015
    • 7

    #1

    Air gushing out of classic

    Hi guys. I just received a 68 classic in trades. Its my first mag. When I hook c02 up to it it gushes air down the barrel. Not a small leak but huge. I watched Tom kayes video on YouTube so I ordered a repair kit and should be here in a couple days. I was just wondering if there was something else I could check in the mean time? All the orings look good in a valve and on off as well.
  • blackdeath1k
    Registered User
    • Jan 2002
    • 2436

    #2
    First. Mags were never a fan of co2. So at all cost keep liquid co2 out of the valve. You will freeze Orings.

    Now for your problem. Sounds like power tube oring at first glance. With air on does it still leak down the barrel when you hold the trigger pulled in?

    Really. Unless you know how long ago the marker war rebuilt. Just replace all Orings and be done with it. That will most likely fix any issue that would come up for quite some time.

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    • Bosgarage57
      Registered User
      • Nov 2015
      • 7

      #3
      Gottcha. The guy i got it from said all the rings had been changed and I believe him. I will change all the rings and check the spacer when I get the kit. Holding in trigger has no effect on on it. It is going to a foregrip then back to the valve so it's not going straight from asa to valve.

      I just hate to wait a week for parts to come in...arg!

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      • vintage
        Registered User

        • Aug 2013
        • 1787

        #4
        take it apart and check the o rings, if they are white then they should still be good, if they are light yellow its pretty much the same, if they are dark then replace them. if they are buna than there is a chance one could be the wrong size. it could be a power tube spacer problem as well, if it has the copper spring inside the powertube you need to replace that with a spacer. mags love oil especially if they have been sitting awhile.

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        • Cyco-Dude

          #5
          if holding the trigger does nothing, then your issue is in the on/off top. check those two o-rings. the white teflon o-ring should sit inside the urethane powertube o-ring. also, it should be a snug fit around the on/off pin. if it slides freely, then it is too loose and should be replaced.

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          • blackdeath1k
            Registered User
            • Jan 2002
            • 2436

            #6
            Originally posted by Cyco-Dude
            if holding the trigger does nothing, then your issue is in the on/off top. check those two o-rings. the white teflon o-ring should sit inside the urethane powertube o-ring. also, it should be a snug fit around the on/off pin. if it slides freely, then it is too loose and should be replaced.
            Correct me if I'm wrong. Been a long time since using co2. But wasn't the on off Orings the ones that generally got froze?

            I don't know how many times I had to rebuild my valve back in the 90s due to freezing the valve. That was actually why I converted to comp air back then.

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            • athomas
              Of course it works-its AGD
              • Jan 2002
              • 8039

              #7
              I echo what Cyco-Dude is saying. If holding the trigger does nothing, then air is flowing past the on-off area, even with the pin in the closed position. That would indicate bad orings, wrong orings, or a missing oring. After that is fixed, if it still leaks out the front with the bolt in the reset position, then the powertube should be looked at.
              Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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              • Bosgarage57
                Registered User
                • Nov 2015
                • 7

                #8
                So replaced all the orings and it's doing the same thing. But the trigger isn't resetting every time. I'm not sure what to do unless the spacer is not the right length.

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                • Cyco-Dude

                  #9
                  have you tried turning the velocity up? it still leaks from the barrel when you are holding the trigger?

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                  • Bosgarage57
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 7

                    #10
                    How far should the rest but be turned in?

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                    • Cyco-Dude

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Bosgarage57
                      How far should the rest but be turned in?
                      until it works, or it vents out of the back. it's going to do one of those two things lol!

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                      • Bosgarage57
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 7

                        #12
                        It's more so still going out the barrel. I'm pretty sure I could put a fire out

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                        • athomas
                          Of course it works-its AGD
                          • Jan 2002
                          • 8039

                          #13
                          Are you sure the on-off pin is installed in the correct orientation? Does it have one of the newer universal on-off top (same top and bottom) or the older one with the X cut into one side?
                          Except for the Automag in front, its usually the man behind the equipment that counts.

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                          • Bosgarage57
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 7

                            #14
                            Yup. I like the fact they put a diagam on the valve itself. Its very helpful

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                            • Cyco-Dude

                              #15
                              i would get a smaller power tube spacer. is the body polished? is the frame or field strip screw over-tightened? i usually just snug the frame screw up holding onto the small end of the allen wrench, and hand-tighten the field strip screw. this applies only if the leak stops when holding the trigger. if it still leaks when holding the trigger, you have not fixed the issue in the on/off top.

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