IS AGD still in business??

[DESMO1198s]

I have called both phone numbers and have gotten no answer only a machine ? Are they still in business? I sure hope so as they were/are a kick @$$ company.
I'm wanting to send in my older 68 Automag to get a refresh ( new seals springs etc.) as well as if they have made any updates to it. Or if its to old I could possibly convert it to the X-Valve back half?? I unfortunately haven't played in a few years thus she has sat in her case for a long while now. But life has moved in a better direction and I can't wait to get out there on the field again. Any thoughts info whirl be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[blackdeath1k]

Yes AGD is still alive and kicking. There main webpage tends to have issues from time to time. I generally deal with tuna for new parts.

Off topic but where you from in IL? I ask because a few of us here are in different parts of the state. I'm in the southern part myself.

[Tunaman]

I can fix it all up for you. Email me. [email protected]

[boo]

Yes AGD is still alive and kicking. There main webpage tends to have issues from time to time. I generally deal with tuna for new parts.

Are they? I know they never went out of business, but didn't know they had inventory on anything but rebuild kits and small parts. What can you still get from them? Do they have any brand new X valves?

I wish someone from AGD could jump on and set the record straight.

[cockerpunk]

AGD is officially still a company, though it exists in a few boxes of parts in Romans (?) garage now.

[Tunaman]

AGD is officially still a company, though it exists in a few boxes of parts in Romans (?) garage now.

There you go shooting your mouth off again at something you obviously know nothing about.

[Nobody]

Never stopped him before, why should it now?

[boo]

AGD is officially still a company, though it exists in a few boxes of parts in Romans (?) garage now.

Honestly, this is what I thought.

I keep hearing AGD is still in business over and over. Why is it such a sensitive subject? I mean, like, people are in total disbelief that a paintball company quietly fades away without a catastrophic bankruptcy, burning a bunch of people with a final junk marker made overseas, or taking the money and running.

AGD was a great company in their prime (and local to where I grew up) but when they moved locations from wheeling to carey I suspect it was to someone's house.

So does AGD:
Still sell complete markers? Or at least a complete xvalve?
Do they have an office space?
Do they still have the machines and are using them for more profitable purposes then paintball?
Do they still service markers?

I can never get a straight answer. Don't they or didn't they at one time own this website? I know Tom pops in once in a blue moon. Does anyone else that works there ever pop in? Id love to hear it direct from the source.

[Nobody]

So does AGD:
Still sell complete markers? Or at least a complete xvalve?

Yes they sell complete guns and Xvalves. It is just that with the used market, because of the quality of product, the value is cheaper than getting new parts. This also goes to thd modular design, so an individual can buy the pieces that they want to build their gun versus starting with a new complete gun THEN adding in the pieces they want.

Do they have an office space?

You do not need an office to run a company. At most, a desk with a computer, a phone & a space to store finished products is all you need.

Do they still have the machines and are using them for more profitable purposes then paintball?

If they are still making product, then it is assumed that they still have machines. But, when TK left, it is equally assumable that the machines where sold off and products are being made 3rd party, if the machines where sold off to recoup moneys lost. So it is a good question but as long as new product is still being made, and adheres to the normal AGD quality, does it matter where it came from?

Do they still service markers?

In all honesty, making a product and servicing a product can be 2 different things. Tuna is a certified AGD tech. BigEvil was taught by Tuna as well as learning a few things on his own, to be considered as good as a certified tech. With that, the 2 people mentioned can aptly handle any and all needs of servicing that you could want or need. The guns are easy to work on(testament to TK's design and genius) that most problems can be fixed with either oil, 2 new orings or a micrometer. After that, its best to talk to BigEvil or Tuna, & if they can't tell you how to fix it, then you should send it to them.

[luke]

Well said!

[cockerpunk]

If they are still making product, then it is assumed that they still have machines.

likely not.

far more likely they do short runs of the parts required at shops that have done them before (and likely always made them even in AGDs heyday). keep a few on hand, very little overhead, very little capital tied up, etc etc "running low on level 10s, better call up XXX and order 5 more" etc automag parts use some pretty non-standard processes like are used in most other guns, they are not just milled blocks of aluminium. there are brazed parts, lots of ground parts ... highly unlikely to vertically integrate such a gun, and likely the guns were never that vertically integrated in there supply chain.

you can run a business with a few boxes worth of overhead in your garage for years with essentially zero cost, and therefore nearly indefinitely. this is the model AGD has adopted.

to those calling bull**** on this, love to be proven wrong. do it instead of making snide comments. i'd accept a video with time-stamp of the tour of AGDs business office and production facilities, but such a facility i don't think exists. before calling me names like you love to, at least have a reason to.

[cockerpunk]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/401+Florine+Ct,+Cary,+IL+60013/@42.227249,-88.2492727,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x880f7355e61a0c5b:0xdde93f0752c1d981

[BigEvil]

There you go shooting your mouth off again at something you obviously know nothing about.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA When Tuna steps in for a smackdown, you know it's gotta be good.

[BigEvil]

On second thought... no, I don't.

[Nobody]

likely not.

far more likely they do short runs of the parts required at shops that have done them before (and likely always made them even in AGDs heyday). keep a few on hand, very little overhead, very little capital tied up, etc etc "running low on level 10s, better call up XXX and order 5 more" etc automag parts use some pretty non-standard processes like are used in most other guns, they are not just milled blocks of aluminium. there are brazed parts, lots of ground parts ... highly unlikely to vertically integrate such a gun, and likely the guns were never that vertically integrated in there supply chain.

you can run a business with a few boxes worth of overhead in your garage for years with essentially zero cost, and therefore nearly indefinitely. this is the model AGD has adopted.

to those calling bull**** on this, love to be proven wrong. do it instead of making snide comments. i'd accept a video with time-stamp of the tour of AGDs business office and production facilities, but such a facility i don't think exists. before calling me names like you love to, at least have a reason to.

So if they have machines, but no offices. Who would be right in their assumptions?

And please tell me where i didn't already say this, or do you just have to repeat a point, just in your voice?