IS AGD still in business??

[blackdeath1k]

This was a passion for TK. He did this and other ventures out of the love of doing it. If you can make money doing what you love. You never really have to work. And yes. Back in the day a few of the people at AGD were on here. But TK was still the primary then from what I can remember.

[Nobody]

So in all honesty, what did you accomplish? There is the truth, like a company purposely misleading or creating a faulty product that could be a danger or even the huge cost difference(a gun that costs say $100 to build but they gouge 4 figures to the consumer) or just take the simple fact that AGD is still alive and well, new products(though no new innovations) are being made, servicing is still accomplished with certified techs, and though the product list might be scant compared to paintballs huge ear(circa 2000s) yet you can still get one of the best engineered guns in paintball.

So, what is the point of all this "dectective" work, other than to prove a point that near no one actually cared about?

[boo]

So in all honesty, what did you accomplish? There is the truth, like a company purposely misleading or creating a faulty product that could be a danger or even the huge cost difference(a gun that costs say $100 to build but they gouge 4 figures to the consumer) or just take the simple fact that AGD is still alive and well, new products(though no new innovations) are being made, servicing is still accomplished with certified techs, and though the product list might be scant compared to paintballs huge ear(circa 2000s) yet you can still get one of the best engineered guns in paintball.

So, what is the point of all this "dectective" work, other than to prove a point that near no one actually cared about?

While Cockerpunks goal was to prove himself "right", purely self serving, my goal was to get a status update on parts for markers that we will have for a very long time. It would also be good to know what can be had for upcoming projects or the availability of brand new markers. While we don't have a "right to know" it still would be nice to know.

It would also be nice to get some thread cleanup here without offending any party in the right/wrong battle so we can hopefully not scare off anyone at liberty to give us actual answers from the source.

And for everyone arguing with cockerpunk for your own purpose of being right, your doing an equal disservice to the community and also demonstrating why people like Tom Kaye, or other industry people stay away from forums. Being right is more important to some of you then having cool paintball markers.

The average age of posters in this thread is twice the average age of pbnation, lets act like it.

[cockerpunk]

So in all honesty, what did you accomplish? There is the truth, like a company purposely misleading or creating a faulty product that could be a danger or even the huge cost difference(a gun that costs say $100 to build but they gouge 4 figures to the consumer) or just take the simple fact that AGD is still alive and well, new products(though no new innovations) are being made, servicing is still accomplished with certified techs, and though the product list might be scant compared to paintballs huge ear(circa 2000s) yet you can still get one of the best engineered guns in paintball.

So, what is the point of all this "dectective" work, other than to prove a point that near no one actually cared about?

you cared enough about it to follow me around and insult me. big evil cared enough about it to say i should be dead in a terrorist attack. and tuna cared enough about it to threaten to ban me over it. nice job moving the goal posts. it was not me who made this a big deal.

remember, i just stated what i thought was common knowledge, you guys decided to insult me over it. i was simply defending not based on innuendo and reputation, my post. im glad we can all agree it was, more or less, correct.

if i had not been viciously attacked by the membership, i would not have to defend my post.

[cockerpunk]

i mean its a self fulfilling prophecy.

I post something, not attacking anyone, not with any condescending tone or insulting anyone or anything, and this post more or less contains common automag knowledge.

you guys attack it.

I have to explain further my post, cite evidence, and post it.

"oh Cockerpunk just always has to prove how smart he is .... blah blah blah"

well yeah, i do, because you guys attack me every time i post something. so i have to defend what i post, even moreso when its not an opinion but a discussion of facts (see also, debounce thread). and for some reason this makes me the *******?

i try to post helpful and common knowledge things now, but they still have around a 50% blow up rate of you guys attacking me for them. it seems even common knowledge and tech tips in order to help someone solve a problem or answer a question are fair game for these attacks. im just trying to help, and then im attacked and forced to defend myself, merely reinforcing your misunderstanding that im some arrogant ass. no, i just don't know what will trigger attack mode, and i have defend my statements, and i can, because they are mostly correct. i cant figure out how this is my fault.

[Nobody]

you cared enough about it to follow me around and insult me. big evil cared enough about it to say i should be dead in a terrorist attack. and tuna cared enough about it to threaten to ban me over it. nice job moving the goal posts. it was not me who made this a big deal.

remember, i just stated what i thought was common knowledge, you guys decided to insult me over it. i was simply defending not based on innuendo and reputation, my post. im glad we can all agree it was, more or less, correct.

if i had not been viciously attacked by the membership, i would not have to defend my post.

Lol... If "following" you is to go to a new post on a forum, that i actually JOINED before you, or was I just going to the newest post in a new or active post? Then why haven't i done it on MCB, PBN, Inception Designs forum or TechPB. Oh wait, the forst 2 you were banned from, Inception Designs- i was asked to lay off you & TechPb, is it even still around? Do not think highly of yourself. You are not that important for me to do that. I just like to see the hole you dig for yourself, in almost each and every post you make.

As for insulting, were have i done so here? Oh wait, if anyone disagrees with you, you take it as an insult. Look again, i asked a question that you haven't answered.

You are the mind of child that needs to know how a magician does a magic trick, instead of reveling in the art. AGD is alive, new products are still coming out, & even your offhanded comments of "the business model", are taken as offensive, not by me, but near an entire forum. Remember, the finger you point has 3 pointing back at you...

So you were proven wrong in your assumptions, your "common knowledge", yet you won't admit it. An intelligent person would accept the mistake and learn from it. Its a good show of character. Take the hint...

[Nobody]

i mean its a self fulfilling prophecy.

I post something, not attacking anyone, not with any condescending tone or insulting anyone or anything, and this post more or less contains common automag knowledge.

you guys attack it.

I have to explain further my post, cite evidence, and post it.

"oh Cockerpunk just always has to prove how smart he is .... blah blah blah"

well yeah, i do, because you guys attack me every time i post something. so i have to defend what i post, even moreso when its not an opinion but a discussion of facts (see also, debounce thread). and for some reason this makes me the *******?

i try to post helpful and common knowledge things now, but they still have around a 50% blow up rate of you guys attacking me for them. it seems even common knowledge and tech tips in order to help someone solve a problem or answer a question are fair game for these attacks. im just trying to help, and then im attacked and forced to defend myself, merely reinforcing your misunderstanding that im some arrogant ass. no, i just don't know what will trigger attack mode, and i have defend my statements.

Stop making wrong, stupid, or ignorant posts and you won't be attacked. If you are wrong say so, and learn something.

[OneSelfLost]

OMG Nobody cares!

No really, he actually does..

(Nobody.. I've wanted to say that for far too long.. Haha) Cheers man!

[boo]

Dave got back to me again today, he did confirm that he just did a new batch of xvalves a few months ago. So, it will be a long time before he does another run. He says the cost to add color would probably be $100 on top of the standard valve price and it would need to be enough people to cover the $100's spent to set up and assemble a run.

So far we've gotten the following answers directly from the source
Yes AGD is still in business, its being run by Dave Zupan who was the VP and Tom's right hand man.
Yes they still service markers/honor warranties
Yes, you can buy a new AGD marker but are seriously limited by color
Yes, AGD is still producing new parts so they are more then boxes of old parts
No, AGD does not machine their own parts (although as mentioned before, did they ever?)
Maybe, with enough peoples money you can pay above and beyond the price of a normal xvalve to get colors.

And anyone with enough skills to use google maps can see they are run out of a house, whether that's a garage, toolshed, basement, whatever.

So there you have it, after all these posts of bickering, speculation pulled out of asses, being told its not our business, its probably just easier to ask the source some questions then posing it to a stupid forum. Hence why there's no reason for anyone from AGD to be active over here.