is a minimag (upgraded) a tourney-level gun?

[drx975]

I just wanted to know what you guys think on this. I was talking to a leader of a team that I was thinking about joining (until i found they are too far away) and he said that a minimag would not be good enough for tournaments. So i was wondering what you all thought, whether an upgraded minimag would be a good tourney gun or not.

This is assuming that the minimag has a lapco ss 12in, intelliframe, ricochet, and a nitro tank running (disregarding size here because air can be filled after every game anyway). Im also planning on a ReTro Valve sometime too.

Dont vote unless you have played on a team in tourneys, or still play on a team.

[a_malfunction]

Minimags are quite capable of holding their own against the cockers and electros commonly found in tourneys. They are even more effective once you start putting upgrades on them. I would suggest a warp, intelliframe, retro, and N2. After that, it will be right up there with the high-end guns.

[drx975]

Ya thats what i thought, more votes plz.......

[Mink06]

As long as you have a ReTro (and N2) you should be fine.

[Poseidon]

I'd say it more less depends on your position. If you a back player, I wouldn't use a mag. Even an RT isn't all that suitable for a back player. They should bee shooting angels, E-mags, bushies and the like. Guns that can fire 9-10 bps without much effort. For a front palyer a mini mag with N2, and a freak (or other system) would be a good gun. Mabey not the best gun, but a good novie touneyment level gun.

[FooTemps]

Startup team... I'm playing with spyders, piranhas, and tippmans right now... I'm only using my pg1 pro right now but I am sure that it is tourney capable...

[s-m-o-k-i-e]

I head up a team and a have a retro micromag but i also have a STO and a freeflow cocker. We have two teammates that only use mags one has a retro minimag the other has a minimag with few upgrades. the rest consist of three angels, five cockers, and one timmy, but believe me the mags have no problem competing they make good tournament guns.

[Dr.StockClass]

I second mink. With a retro and HPA you shouldn't have any problem.

[Predater]

Originally posted by Poseidon
I'd say it more less depends on your position. If you a back player, I wouldn't use a mag. Even an RT isn't all that suitable for a back player. They should bee shooting angels, E-mags, bushies and the like. Guns that can fire 9-10 bps without much effort. For a front palyer a mini mag with N2, and a freak (or other system) would be a good gun. Mabey not the best gun, but a good novie touneyment level gun.

what are you talking about? a rt or retro can fire as fast as a electro if you use the trigger to its fullist. it can definatly fire 9-10 bps. you just have to lern to play with it.

To ansur your question, a minimag can be a great turny gun. i would say nitro and the retro valve are needed. with the retro you can hold your own prety easy. i use an rt and it can definatly keep up with electros.

And again, Poseidon, what are you talking about?

[LaW]

I don't think this has been said but I think that any marker is a tournament capable marker. I think the real question is that of whether the player is tourney capable??? this is derived by the 95%player 5% marker or whatever ...

[Croix71]

I was always under the impression that it's the player and not the gun.

[Poseidon]

Originally posted by Predater


what are you talking about? a rt or retro can fire as fast as a electro if you use the trigger to its fullist. it can definatly fire 9-10 bps. you just have to lern to play with it.

There is no doubt that they can handle shooting that fast, but I where a back player, I wouldn't be shooting an RT. It wouldn't be a bad gun, but there are other guns out there (such as emags, angels, bushies, shockers) that would better suit a back player IMO. They are easier to shoot faster. For a front player or a insert type player a RT would work great. Im a bit biased though because im not a fan of the RT trigger. I just feals weird to me. For a front player a gun like a shocker, or martix wouldn't be a good choice (to big and heavy, not to mention the big nitro tank you'll need). These are just my opinions so don't flame me for it.

[covadsucks]

All you really need to be competitive in a tourney with a minimag is N2 and a fast trigger finger. I was a back player with an STO cocker and a Timmy. I now play up front more and I still shoot my timmy, but I also shoot my minimag with retro valve(kinda don't like it as much my minimag valve that I sold -stupid me.)...it's all about the skills not what marker you run with. I've seen a guy play with a PT Extreme as his frontline marker. He did ok with it as well...

[mykroft]

Just tell them 'Then Why did Manny from Aftershock shoot a Retromag until he got his SFL?'

[soilent green]

look at my mag in my sig I play back and I use this and rip on the trigger I shoot faster than my team mate that has a shocker but thats just my awsome trig finger I shoot 7-9bps easy