is a minimag (upgraded) a tourney-level gun?

[drx975]

I think I shoot like 7 balls a second and at a max level of 8 a second (for a short period of time, usually when a ball breaks), stock. I play with kids that shoot tippmanns and spyders mostly (when i dont go to a field) and almost every time we come out of the woods from the speedball course me and this other kid made, they are just amazed at how fast I am shooting. Sometimes when i do go to a field, people even with high-end guns notice that I am shooting pretty damn fast. All i can say is that the mag is one fAsT shooting gun. I just cant wait until I get the intelliframe...

[Predater]

Originally posted by Poseidon


These are just my opinions so don't flame me for it.

sorry man. i wasnt trying to flame you. i cant shoot a electro fast. the rt trigger has spoiled me.:) i cant shoot my old mag cuz i short stroke to much now. but if you now the rt trigger it can shoot really fast. you do have to now how to use the trigger thow.

[Poseidon]

I short stoke y mag a bit more than I'd like too. Elcd frame will help that though. I got it for free :) hehhehe

[DJSOLID]

I play rec ball often against tournament teams and fear no marker anyone owns. I have a setup precisely as you speak of. I know my marker can give any marker on the market a run for it's money, and I've proven it to myself, which is what really counts.

[drx975]

Yeah mags are sweet, I agree, but here's how much it costs for that crap:
350 for gun
70 for barrel
115 for chrome intelli
200 for retro, trade in
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total=$735, thats a lot guys, try comparing those $700 electros. im not sure if i would like the electros though, because there is a lot in a Mag that I like. Plus, god damn if I had the intelliframe and retro (not to mention i still need a ricochet lol) I would never trade my gun.

[StealthPlayer]

Minimags are for the front players who need small profiles.
With a drop forward and nito its a tournament level gun.

[Predater]

Originally posted by drx975
Yeah mags are sweet, I agree, but here's how much it costs for that crap:
350 for gun
70 for barrel
115 for chrome intelli
200 for retro, trade in
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total=$735

buy an new rt pro. less than 600 for gun that comes with intellifeed and retro. then buy barrel.

or find a used one. thatl still be cheaper.

[jewie27]

Just install a ReTro Valve, Super Bolt, and Intelliframe. Maybe even a Warp Feed. The Gun will kick major @$$. I have a Minimag and I just installed a Intelliframe and wired it, I waiting for my Retro Valve to show up from AGD.

[drx975]

Jewie, how does that intelliframe work out? How much faster/smoother is it? I am getting one anyway, but its always good to know people's opinions...

[Predater]

im not Jeuie . but i can ansure the intelliframe question. the intellifeed works great. a halo would be beter or even warpfeed. but the intellifeed does help to not outshoot the hopper. i still outshoot the hoper but it does help.

[drx975]

Thanx....but

I already know that and I dont think I will intellifeed my hopper (ricochet2k when I decide to buy one) because it doesn't need it. What I want is a smooth, faster frame, that looks nice (and it does :)). Basically I want to increase my ROF. My question is: will it do that? And if so, by how much? Also, is the pull any shorter than stock?

[Predater]

OK.

your hopper does what the intelifeed maks a revy do, and without wires and mods. no fare. I had to modify my revy to do that.

the pull is about the same as a stock trigger frame in lingth. there is almost no wabble from side to side. and it looks great. i have a crome one on my rt pro with the grove trigger. and i have a gloss black one on my automagrt with blade trigger. i like the blade way more and plan to buy a blade trigger for the crome frame. o ya, you could put a trigger stop in to shortin the pull. just make it adjustible so you can make it stop the trigger after it shoots so it wont cause problems. this would void all warenties from agd on the frame thow.

does this ansure the question?

[edit] i forgot, the frame is faster than a single finger trigger cuz it has a softer pull. but longer pull. but if you use a 2x trigger it probably wont be any faster. if its more comfortable to you it will help thow. i like 45s beter than the stock frames.[edit]

[PsychoMag]

Originally posted by Poseidon


There is no doubt that they can handle shooting that fast, but I where a back player, I wouldn't be shooting an RT. It wouldn't be a bad gun, but there are other guns out there (such as emags, angels, bushies, shockers) that would better suit a back player IMO. They are easier to shoot faster.

Not to flame...but this makes no sense, I have had my share of mags, just got rid of my RT Pro for an Emag, Why cant u shoot an RT Pro in back, yet an emag, which is the same gun, just solenoid assisted, is ok? As well as the fact that my RT Pro hit a sweetspot so well I had to put a warp on it to keep paint in it.

oh well...to each his own

and as for the mini, it is fine. I have seen many mags and RT's in upper level events such as GPL and NPPL. Use whatever you are comfortable with, if you like your mini and can shoot it well, then it is a tourney level marker.
over half of my team uses various mags, and hopefully I can convert the rest over, since many other high end markers go down way too often.

[Interceptor]

I used to use a mini decked out with all ANS parts and reactor valve, I had a SS Lapco 12" bigshot on it. I played a few tourneys with it and had no problem what so ever. I never had a need for a retro valve because I usually try to aim before I shoot. My ROF was high enough, and I could usually shoot out one of the other team off the bat with it. The mag has plenty of range and power to it. Its the player not the gun. Have fun.

[MikeCouves]

Well we won our local tourney, and I had my Minimag, not even with an Intelliframe on it. Just the Mini, 12v Revy, and a 47/3000 Nitro. Works perfect, and it's small and tight for me as a front player.q