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  • Nobody
    Nobody's Perfect
    • Oct 2001
    • 3384

    #31
    Luke: nice stack of dimes. I learned a thing or three watching a world class welder. It looks like good welding.

    Smallerfreeze: you could be right, that though the valve is ugly, it might still work, but more to the point, that it failed before, you have no history of who did the work, the previous owner wants nothing to do with it and because of the pressures associated within the dump chamber itself, it failed once, it can fail again. If the valve was something ultra rare, ultra unique then it might be worth trying to repair it. But a minimag valve, even early on, is not uncommon, nor better or even worth more than a regular classic valve.

    You have a good standing offer to not only replace a possible hazard, but at no cost to you (shipping washes out). We in the community would rather meep you alive, uninjured and shooting a mag. It may not be the one you purchased, but you will be able to enjoy it none the less. This is not any ill will towards your intelligence or experiences, but from everyone here, who has seen this is in total agreement to not even put air to it and see if or when it will fail.

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    • nak81783
      Registered User
      • Nov 2001
      • 782

      #32
      Is there any reason the OP can't take Luke's advice to simply thread a new powertube on? This eliminates the weld but let's the OP keep/use the remainder of the valve?
      Last of the Salzburg Clan

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      • captian pinky
        Bearded Works

        • Oct 2004
        • 2755

        #33
        Originally posted by Tunaman View Post
        I think you are missing the point. We here at the Automag Community want this valve OUT of circulation. Somewhere down the road you will tire of it and it will be back on the market again for some other poor sucker to deal with. The valve is dangerous and we want it gone forever.
        This was basically my interest in the valve and I think i have another valve that has the powertube tip that is good.

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        • smallerfreeze
          Bury me with my mag
          • Apr 2017
          • 241

          #34
          Originally posted by Tunaman View Post
          I think you are missing the point. We here at the Automag Community want this valve OUT of circulation. Somewhere down the road you will tire of it and it will be back on the market again for some other poor sucker to deal with. The valve is dangerous and we want it gone forever.
          danger valve will die with me tunaman... never in a million years would i even give someone the valve
          Matthew 10:34

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          • smallerfreeze
            Bury me with my mag
            • Apr 2017
            • 241

            #35
            Originally posted by Nobody View Post
            Luke: nice stack of dimes. I learned a thing or three watching a world class welder. It looks like good welding.

            Smallerfreeze: you could be right, that though the valve is ugly, it might still work, but more to the point, that it failed before, you have no history of who did the work, the previous owner wants nothing to do with it and because of the pressures associated within the dump chamber itself, it failed once, it can fail again. If the valve was something ultra rare, ultra unique then it might be worth trying to repair it. But a minimag valve, even early on, is not uncommon, nor better or even worth more than a regular classic valve.

            You have a good standing offer to not only replace a possible hazard, but at no cost to you (shipping washes out). We in the community would rather meep you alive, uninjured and shooting a mag. It may not be the one you purchased, but you will be able to enjoy it none the less. This is not any ill will towards your intelligence or experiences, but from everyone here, who has seen this is in total agreement to not even put air to it and see if or when it will fail.
            im not trying to be unintelligent by turning down an offer to exchange the valve... i just dont have a problem with keeping the valve.. atleast for parts inside and buying another complete one
            Matthew 10:34

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            • smallerfreeze
              Bury me with my mag
              • Apr 2017
              • 241

              #36
              Somewhere down the road you will tire of it and it will be back on the market again for some other poor sucker to deal with <----- negative
              Matthew 10:34

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              • smallerfreeze
                Bury me with my mag
                • Apr 2017
                • 241

                #37
                I wouldnt have fired it without asking u guys regardless
                Matthew 10:34

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                • luke
                  lukescustoms.com

                  • Jan 2001
                  • 8211

                  #38
                  SF, there's an old machinist I meet awhile back that's retired, he's been asking for some work. If you want to remove the power tube and send it to me I'll get you a bid to have one made. I have no idea what he would charge but I can ask. I believe there's a thread in the workshop started by Hill that should explain how to remove the power tube. I've done them before but I dont want to mess with them any more. The thread had to do with efficiency inserts, if I can find it I'll bump it to the top.

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                  • smallerfreeze
                    Bury me with my mag
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 241

                    #39
                    1d68FgM.jpgGNAjUoO (1).jpgXZUpgcP.jpg ... i took tunamans advice on the lagoon RIP danger valve.. everything else looks good
                    Matthew 10:34

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                    • captian pinky
                      Bearded Works

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 2755

                      #40
                      Originally posted by smallerfreeze View Post
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]93823[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]93824[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]93825[/ATTACH] ... i took tunamans advice on the lagoon RIP danger valve.. everything else looks good
                      Had i seen the weld going out to the threads i would have said the same thing.

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                      • nak81783
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2001
                        • 782

                        #41
                        Originally posted by captian pinky View Post
                        Had i seen the weld going out to the threads i would have said the same thing.
                        Ah, yes. There it is.
                        Last of the Salzburg Clan

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                        • Mondoatx
                          Registered User
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 206

                          #42
                          So...just curious here... on a physics level... if it did fail... how bad could it be? I mean... if it was aired up it would be in body... I guess I am just curious if the explosive force would be enough to overcome the structural integrity of the body?

                          I know the typical operating pressure/input is 800PSI... but obviously if you reduce surface area PSI increases... so does the PSI go above the operating pressure/input at different parts of the valve?

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                          • Menace_AO
                            AKA Menace
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 309

                            #43
                            Thirded.

                            That thing just kept getting more and more ugly. And bad.

                            OP, to echo Nobody's point, there really wasn't anything about that valve that made it ultra-desirable. It wasn't one of the really old ones, so no worries there.

                            And even if it had been, whomever wrecked it would have taken all the value with it when he did.

                            So you needn't worry about a lost treasure, or anything like that.

                            Of course, speaking of lost treasure, now all we need is a final scene, post credits, where some random diver from the distant future sifts through the murky depths and finds something cylindrical and shiny.

                            It has strange lasered markings, and appears to be part of a valve of some sort with odd welds and grinding marks on it.

                            The diver can't be certain, but he thinks it may be part of the ancient, fearsome paintball marker known simply as 'The 'Mag'. With the sage advice of a mystical mustachioed guru recorded on VHS, the diver and his engineer buddy will put together all the pieces they've collected, rob a museum, and with a little luck, they'll get it back up and running in no time . . .

                            Fade to black.

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                            • OneSelfLost
                              Frontline with tha mag out

                              • Apr 2010
                              • 835

                              #44
                              If you have to ask if something is safe.. it probably isn't.

                              If you have to think about it, its probably not worth it.

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                              • knownothingmags
                                RKM 3D Designs

                                • Apr 2010
                                • 4810

                                #45
                                Nice

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