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  • PhrostPhreek01
    Registered User
    • Dec 2012
    • 51

    #1

    Switched rails now having issues

    Hello, I went from a stock rail to a Luke's costume gamma rail and now when I gas up the gun, x Valve it goes crazy just shooting . Have a nummech trigger with an intelliframe if any of that matters. any help would be very much appreciated.
  • luke
    lukescustoms.com

    • Jan 2001
    • 8211

    #2
    Did you install the rail bushing when you switched out the rails?

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    • PhrostPhreek01
      Registered User
      • Dec 2012
      • 51

      #3
      Originally posted by luke View Post
      Did you install the rail bushing when you switched out the rails?
      Yes

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      • rawbutter
        Registered User
        • Feb 2007
        • 1463

        #4
        I would first go back to the stock rail and make sure everything still works right like that. It's possible something else is going on, and the rail change is just a coincidence.

        If everything works right with the stock rail, I would then look at the gap between the trigger and the sear arm. There should be a small gap (about the width of a credit card) when the marker is aired up. Otherwise the trigger can cause problems.

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        • PhrostPhreek01
          Registered User
          • Dec 2012
          • 51

          #5
          update: switched rails back. i believe its a sear adjustment issue i think i had it to far in on the lukes rail which caused it to stick. going to switch it again. and probably have to adjust it some more. will give another update when i do . thanks everyone for the input

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          • luke
            lukescustoms.com

            • Jan 2001
            • 8211

            #6
            You need gap between the sear rod end and back of the trigger (when aired up) about the thickness of a credit card

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            • Nobody
              Nobody's Perfect
              • Oct 2001
              • 3384

              #7
              Or use a rail that follows AGD spec...

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              • Fred
                AO Zealot
                • Feb 2002
                • 2624

                #8
                Originally posted by Nobody View Post
                Or use a rail that follows AGD spec...
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                • luke
                  lukescustoms.com

                  • Jan 2001
                  • 8211

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PhrostPhreek01 View Post
                  Hello, I went from a stock rail to a Luke's costume gamma rail and now when I gas up the gun, x Valve it goes crazy just shooting . Have a nummech trigger with an intelliframe if any of that matters. any help would be very much appreciated.
                  Did you get it figured out?

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                  • RossT
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 82

                    #10
                    I'm having some strange issues with mine too. Had a tac one that was functioning perfectly and switched to the full length tac one looking rail. The trigger rod stuck out further so that there was no space between the rod and trigger (intelliframe; stock blade trigger). After adjusting the rod so that there is a tiny gap, the gun won't shoot. I don't think it is pushing the on/off pin in enough. Need to buy and try out a longer on/off pin and see what happens.

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                    • luke
                      lukescustoms.com

                      • Jan 2001
                      • 8211

                      #11
                      Sounds like your trigger rod is still incorrectly adjusted.

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                      • luke
                        lukescustoms.com

                        • Jan 2001
                        • 8211

                        #12
                        The Hybrid rail is essentially an Automag rail so the trigger rod shouldn't change.

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                        • luke
                          lukescustoms.com

                          • Jan 2001
                          • 8211

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RossT View Post
                          I'm having some strange issues with mine too. Had a tac one that was functioning perfectly and switched to the full length tac one looking rail. The trigger rod stuck out further so that there was no space between the rod and trigger (intelliframe; stock blade trigger). After adjusting the rod so that there is a tiny gap, the gun won't shoot. I don't think it is pushing the on/off pin in enough. Need to buy and try out a longer on/off pin and see what happens.
                          Is your rail a Hybrid Rail?

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                          • Nobody
                            Nobody's Perfect
                            • Oct 2001
                            • 3384

                            #14
                            Suffice to say, because Luke could not follow AGD spec, any time you use a Luke rail, you will experience a problem. You loose the reliability, you loose the flexibility of swapping parts with any AGD product(except for the classic RT), and you just plain loose. Its sad to say, but the truth is, Luke's new rails changed the geometry of the sear and you will have nothing but problems.

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                            • luke
                              lukescustoms.com

                              • Jan 2001
                              • 8211

                              #15
                              PhrostPhreek and Ross, contact me about making arrangements to send in your markers, I'll gladly take a look at them.

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