Most overpriced gun

[chris99506]

i think that the A-5 is the most overpriced gun, it's like 270 or 300 you could get a cocker for not much more, not that i like cockers but they are still better than any tippmann, and all the A-5 is, is a tippman 98 with a detatchable gripframe and it has a cyclone feed, big deal it's still a piece of crap they should pay the user to shoot it

[Rambozo]

I dont think the tippmanns are pieces of crap. And I think that cyclone feed is a nice feature. I would buy one. And you have options for reactive triggers and what not on the tippmanns. To me the new a5 looks to be a bit more solid than the m98. Tippmanns are good entry level guns. Shure there not automags, but they are decent. However a $300+ price tag is a bit steap.

[SyntaxError]

Originally posted by Skweegi

The CLASS IR3 is a stock IR3 with a the solenoid area milling expanded and made more boring and pedestrian than stock milling. Then they add......drumroll please...........a VOLUMIZER!!! (that does absolutely nothing. Yeah thats worth an extra $500.

not to mention that that $500 volumizer looks like the um....hmm...male genetalia heehee

[chris99506]

the ir3 is a verry nice gun but for the price i would rather have my dark angel any day and yes tippmanns suck i have had 3 and i hated them all, i would even rather shoot a spyder compact, than a piece of crap plastic A-5 and don't give me any of that "high density polimer" crap either.

[Jerhew]

well i have to say in tippman's defense....
when i started out, my first gun was a tippman pro lite...
i beat the absolute crap out of that gun..
never took care of it.. threw it around...
ax-handled it into a tree stump in anger...
basically if i saw someone today who treated any marker as poorly as i treated my pro lite, i'd have to say something to them...
and ya know what...
it still works.
sure the trigger pull is gross, the accuracy is questionable and the fps consistancy is pretty deplorable
but for my first gun, it was perfect.

as far as most overpriced...
look
people wouldn't continue to buy a gun if it was wrongfully overpriced...if it was expensive and completely sucked, it wouldn't last....capitalism...supply and demand...

there isn't much sense arguing
everyone has their opinions...it's like telling a ford guy chevy's are better... it's nonsense.

[Duke Henry]

Originally posted by chris99506
i think that the A-5 is the most overpriced gun, it's like 270 or 300 you could get a cocker for not much more, not that i like cockers but they are still better than any tippmann, and all the A-5 is, is a tippman 98 with a detatchable gripframe and it has a cyclone feed, big deal it's still a piece of crap they should pay the user to shoot it

Let's see, take a Model 98 at $120, and add a HALO-B for $150. That gives you what? $270? Considering the A5 RT has pushed past 20 BPS, I think that is a fair comparison. Also, no batteries.

Add FAST stripping time, and this gun is not THAT overpriced.

[chris99506]

and it is made out of plastic and don't give me that "it can be driven over with a truck because it is made out of high density polymer" because i had a sting ray that was made out of plastic and it was advertised that you could run it over with a truck and you know what i did? i drove over it with my ford f-150 and it didn't break but the first time i dropped it on the street a week later on accident it cracked. if i'm going to buy a gun for $270 it better be made out of metal not out of a recycled Burger King toy

[Rambozo]

I actually wasnt aware the A-5 was constructed from polymers. I thought it was aluminum.

I have to agree. Im not too keen on plastics. But then a multitude of firearms use polymers. So it probably isnt really that bad. But It sure doesnt feel quite as solid.

[Duke Henry]

The trigger frame is made of a high density plastic. Apparently, the same plastic that Glocks are made of or something. Don't quote me on that, I would have to check into it.

[Spray Painter]

my first gun was a pro/carbine and i never had to replace anything in it because nothing wore out. the accuacy and consistancy were questionable. it was a very reliable gun for a noob(me) who didn't know anything about paintball at the time.

[angelKiller16]

the thing wih the A5 is who needs a HALO like loader on a tippmann anyway. The thing is a waste of money. tier are so many better markers out thier you could buy for a few dollars more. Not to mention the thing looks like a German tactical assualt gun!

Second, about te Chris LaSoya Angel. People have been askink, " what next a 2000$ marker?". Well here it is! Some pro decided he'll make some extra cash and get a gun endorsement. Of course people will buy it because 1 It's Chris's signiture gun 2 Thier limited edition and 3 peole just like to brag that they have expensive markers. This thing is going for $1950 and made out of ALUMINUM! I could buy 3 of he most kickin mags and still have $150 to go play in a tourney.

So in conclusion, the A-5 is overriced because it is made of plastic, looks like a assult rifle and know one with a tipman needs the assistance of the loader it has, just buy a 12vlt. And the Chriss LaySoya angel is now the first $2000 marker. Wich is the biggest waste of money in all of sport, not to mention just paintball.

[k9hero]

TALON RULES!!!! ERR HELL NO!

OMG just look at the thing, espesily mine. mines black!

[Evil Pepe]

hmmm a new wal-mart special.scratch that.maybe a BigLots special

[Meph]

I would like to step up and shed some light on this here, since I am the Tippmann guy. Of course I'm biased when it comes to Tippmanns, sue me.

The A-5 made of plastic? Well, before you make a comment, please know what you're talking about. The entire body is aluminum, hammer, sear, and valve as well. And a few other parts. The plastic parts are the grip frame and Cyclone. But then again, all hoppers are plastic, aren't they? So why complain about a plastic loader now?
Stock autocockers don't even have a metal trigger frame, look at them! Feel them! And you make a comparison about them, yet bash the A-5? Alright, if you say so.

Now the A-5 is not for everybody. For that reason right there, the cyclone. But hey, it's a force feed system that was in development for 3 years, before the Halo was even around. So after all the time, energy, money, and cast moldings were made it was probably just a bit late to say "Hmmm, maybe we should just use an elbow instead?" Besides, the Cyclone actually lowers your hopper profile 2 inches lower than a standard hopper! So it's better than most hoppers in that there's no batteries, it makes your profile lower, and it's consistent with each and every shot eliminating ball breaks or misfeeds.

Now is it overpriced? You're talking about a marker that just hit the market! Wait for a few months, after the holiday season. The price will come down. You'll be seeing them for 250 at a lot of places come January and February. Even less at other.
And considering you're right now paying 300 for both a marker AND force feed loader, I don't think it's really THAT overpriced even as it is right now. Good luck getting a cocker and Halo B for 300 bucks!

But of course, overprices is just a personal opinion. There's no real facts or anything to back this up. What's overpriced for one person is reasonably priced for another person.

Though I did expect a higher caliber of people at the automags forum. Or so I thought from my past surfing through this place.

[sniper1rfa]

WonTon...

actually, stock cockers are pretty damn nice.

Barrel - given

feed- you can get stock vert feeds

Pneumatics - you probably dont know the first thing about pneumatics. if you did, you would realize that the tock throw and bullet throw are a mere 1/32" different. the throw of ANY 3/2 valve is determined by the size of the inputs and outputs. there isnt much difference between the bomb and stock.

milling - does it matter?

internals - i have seen a totally stock cocker (besides some dremel work on the valve) get over 1k shots on a 68/3k.

bolt - i made a bolt that was totally open (delrin, the wall of the bolt was 1-1/6" thick) and light as all get out, increased fps over the stock by a total of 10 fps. not very impressive. i dont expect any better from a mass produced part.

ill give you the frame, though i have tune a regular old stock frame to be easily acceptable.

trigger plate? oh shut up, just polish the sucker.

the works cocker, ill have you know, is just a cocker some guy builds. it is no different than the cockers i have worked on. as long as you know what you are doing, you can easily make a mostly stock cocker perform just as well. change the frame and maybe some springs then tune it right and your all set.