** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[automagII]

i have had my lvl 10 in for about 2500 rounds. everything worked like it should. then today i got a leak out of barrel. so i removed all of kit to restart.what i found was the little black o-ring on the outside of the carrier had a very small chip in it. i almost could not see it! i took a chunk out when i installed it because the fit was so tight. that was the problem. now no leak out of any part of gun!

[MrScorcher]

Another Level 10 problem please help or direct me

I went to install my level 10 kit into my retro minimag. I finally got everything in the powertube and reinserted valve into body. I gas it up and it wont fire, instructions say turn velocity up. Turn up velocity about a quarter turn, still no firing, turn more, still no firing, turn more, gas leaks out both barrel and back of valve. Could someone please give some solutions to this problem or give me a link where this same question was already answered? Thanks very much.

BlackVCG- What size carrier and how many shims are you using? What spring are you using? When you slide the bolt back and forth on the PT with the LX parts installed, do you feel friction on the bolt from the o-ring inside?

[p8ntballervirus]

ok, i know its my level 10 and i think i have fixed it but i'm not sure because i have no air. but i have 2 shims and one carrier. i have it on the one line setting (not sure what they are called) before i had it on the dot and it was leaking. i put the 1 lined piece and it still leaked. my gun was leaking down the barrel and i chopped, i don't know why it was doing this because i changed it from the last setting because it was chopping also. thx

Make sure you can feel some friction from the o-ring on the bolt stem. The lines indicate a full size and the dots indicate a half size. The more lines, the larger the size. Put the o-ring in one of the carriers and slide it back and forth on the bolt stem to make sure there's enough friction that it will seal. This will save you time from having to put the parts in, test it and take it all apart again. Remove the shims. They aren't needed unless you have problems with the bolt locking up on a ball and not retracting.

[LaW]

I don't think I have a problem but maybe i do? Well I can't get the lvl10 to work with either of the two larger springs without the velocity leaking. This isn't a problem, i'm running the 2nd smallest carrier and 2 shims with the smallest spring... no leaks but when i degass the rest of the pressure will leak out the bolt which is good since i don't have a bleed valve but not sure if this is a problem? I unloaded some year old paint (****ty stuff) and i could hear it misfeeding from my warp and pinching fine so i'm just assuming it is working good

i just need a chrono now.....

question is: Is the leaking down the barrel after degassing normal? I hope so because it works well

[BlackVCG]

You need a new piston to make it work with the larger springs.

Make sure you're using the loosest carrier that doesn't leak. The looser the fit, the lower the operating pressure and the less breaks and higher efficiency you'll get.

[LaW]

Yeah I have it set up correctly. The 0 carrier is the smallest and the only one that doesn't leak.... even the .5 leaks a great deal....

[riooso]

Level 10 Bolt plunger came apart

I have a Level 10 Bolt where the small part of the plunger came out and went down my power tube.
I would like to know what I should use to "glue" it in when I tap it back in. I had a replacement bolt which did the same thing but I just tapped it back in to get me through the day. JB Weld, Locktite or what?
I have done a search and could not find a thread about this.

Thanks,
R

[Load SM5]

I used some permanent locktite and to glue it back in. after you put in in as far as you can by hand, put a peice of leather, or something similiar, on top and tap it a few times with a hammer to make sure it's seated. I did this with my first level 10 bolt and it's still going strong.

[riooso]

Thanks a lot for the help.

R

[matt0000]

just installed my lvl 10 on my x valve had a little trouble but i think i got it i put the carrier with 1 groove in it with 2 shimms and with the medium spring it shoots ok but i think i can make it better also when i pull the trigger i hear gas leaking any ideas? also i have my pressure at about 900 on my flatline and it doesnt seem that reactive any help would be great thanx
-matt-

[Havoc_online]

you need to chrono. where is the leak coming from? Down the barrel I assume, make sure the black outer o'ring on the carrier is in good shape. If so, go down a size in carriers and finish breaking in that o'ring.

[matt0000]

would down a size be the carrier no grooves in it?

[LaW]

size down would be no lines and 1 dot which is the .5 carrier

[matt0000]

alright thanks

[shadow462]

little ditty

More of a foamie problem than a level ten problem. I keep shooting the darn things out. The one that came on the gun shot out 3 weeks ago. I put a replacement on with hard epoxy the next day. Lost it again last weekend. What am I doing wrong? I scored the bolt face, and the epoxy remained on the bolt itself, apparently the foamie didn't adhere properly. Thanks!