** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[crankydan]

Thanks

Thanks Havoc,

I did go with the cut spring, pinch is about the same as the long one. Everything is working great, I oil prior to every day of play. Still getting a few coughs and venting out the back at 290-295. I guess 270-280 will have to do until I can get the new Reg Piston. Thanks again Havoc.

crankydan

[gamarada717]

bolt stick

My level 10 on my RT Pro tends to give me bolt stick ALOT. At the start of almost every game I start to play, my gun will simply not fire. After shoving a squeege down it, it will start to fire. About every 5 shots my gun will make a "shhht" sound when I pull the trigger. Also my velocity jumps like mad. Right now I'm at the 1.0 carrier, 2 shims, medium spring. A while back I couldn't even get the medium spring to get below 300.

[Fnoskar]

Still haven't get the X-mag going..!
The pin behind the trigger doesn't cock up..

One question:
In manual it's written that in order to remove the bolt from the body you have to have trigger pulled, orignal mode and no safety.

But on my gun none of this have to be done to get the bolt lose?
Something must be wrong?
I haven't done anything more then removed the bolt a couple of times.

[trevorjk]

sorry if this has been answered but i looked through about 10 pages and couldnt find my problem


ok
i have x-valve-(brand new) automag. with benchy trigger frame and lapco barrel running a 88ci 4500 preset 850 nitro tank.

anyways my level ten works great and functions and everything no problems what so ever with that aspect of it

with the spacers.
i can't go another size up or down with out leaks.

now my problem is i can NOT get my velocity below 290. and my velocity is all over the place. and i have fired roughly 5-600 times now.

any suggestions?

oil lubing? any suggestions would be great thanks

[ckyguy]

ok i just got my x-valve, and was tryin to install my lvl 10 in it, but it looks like there's already a shim in there, and i can't get it out anyway i try. any suggestions?

[wobbles82]

wobbles82

Ok, I changed my carrier to what somebody said would make the trigger problem go away, but now whenever I air up my gun it leaks out of my tank crazily, off the side of the reg. Whats the problem?

[tmnothing]

If its leaking out of the back of the regulator on the gun then you have the velocity turned up too high. If it doesnt shoot when you turn it down you need a shorter spring.

If it's leaking out of the regulator on your tank then you have a problem that has nothing to do with the Level 10. Maybe a bad o-ring?

[wobbles82]

Its leaking down the barrel

Ok, now its leaking down the barrel, I fixed the regulator problem by changing to carrier #2, I used one shim and it had a hard leak down the barrel, then I used a second and it has a light leak down the barrel, also when I hold the trigger in the gas stops leaking down the barrel, but I dont get it everything is in the proper order, what could be the problem? I was at carrier 2 with 1 shim, carrier 2 with o shims, carrier 2 with 2 shims and still leaks, what is going on?!??

[kiwi n0ddy]

Need Help.

Alrighty, this is kind of a wandering thread.
Firstly, When I installed my Lvl 10 in my mag it did all the funny hissing and such, but after a few minor adjustments it worked fine. It worked perfectly since then...UNTIL..this last tourney I was in. It developed a funny problem which only lasted two games, but was enough to really piss me off. The gun is a automag, with an automag reg on it, no ReTro or X reg. Its had the Turbo drilling applied to it so it can shoot very fast with no drop off, but thats enough about the gun. The problem is, the bolt would pinch a ball and instead of returning to its pre-firing position, it would continue to push against the pinched ball and hiss at me. I tried all kinds of things, pulling the trigger (no effect), pulling the rod the trigger uses to fire forward (no effect), and even cramming the ball into the chamber using a squeegee (worked, but the refs laughed at me). It only did it twice, but seriously, this gun has worked flawlessly and I don't want it to make a habit of screwing up during big games when it has to spit a lot of paint.
More on that note, whats the story with the hyperframe by centerflag. I wanna go electro, but I'm not sure if I should drop the cash and get a full blown E-mag (I live in New Zealand, and it costs a hell of a lot out here) or should I continue to use my nicely upgraded and personalized mag and put a centerflag frame on it. My pal uses a booyah Elcd grip frame for his mag, but its finicky, and sucks. Same deal with the hyperframe? or are they a bit more reliable? thanks for the help.

[maglover52]

my x valve when i have the smallest carrier in it and i gas it up it starts shooting with out pulling the trigger and wont stop until you degas it. but with the second smallest carrier it wont shoot til you pull the trigger then it goes crazy and after like 20 shots it stops and leaks out the barrel? i am haveing troubles

[pbzmag]

Re: Need Help.

Originally posted by kiwi n0ddy
More on that note, whats the story with the hyperframe by centerflag. I wanna go electro, but I'm not sure if I should drop the cash and get a full blown E-mag (I live in New Zealand, and it costs a hell of a lot out here) or should I continue to use my nicely upgraded and personalized mag and put a centerflag frame on it. My pal uses a booyah Elcd grip frame for his mag, but its finicky, and sucks. Same deal with the hyperframe? or are they a bit more reliable? thanks for the help.

I had a Hyperframe for my mag. When I upgraded to the LX, I had problems firing. So I upgraded to the IFrame. I still had the HF and bought spare parts to make a backup mag. Now that I bought a used Retro, I tried it out on the HF w/LX and worked perfectly. If you lack funds for the emag, get the HF but be prepared to run into some problems. Also there were also some others who did get the HF work with a regular valve with LX.

[Ejp414]

Well, I didn't see that this problem was posted, but I could have easily missed it. I have a minimag and I'm using the bronze spring, 2 shims, and the carrier with only 1 dot (.5 I think?). I'm having a problem where I get unbeleivable shootdown, after around 4 bps the ball will just roll out of my barrel. I tried switching to the next larger carrier, but when I do I get a slight leak down the powertube for a little bit after I shoot, so I think the carrier I have is the largest one I can really use without having leaking problems. Any ideas? Thanks.

EDIT: I was chronoing around 280 yesterday, when I was having problems.

[javi]

hey man the level 10 gets realy picky when you shoot at such a low speed of 220-230 i found that out. if you maybe higher your volocity that might get rid of the problem. the levl 10 is mainly for high speeds your levl 10 can be chop free with speeds up to 400fps.. try that man hope it works for you

[kiwi n0ddy]

What the???

Whats the story... i have a mag with a lvl 10 installed, i was at a tourney last weekend and i chopped a paintball.
whats up with that????

i got so used to taking my sqeegie onto the field but not needing it, that for one game i decided to not take it and i chopped one...

gotta love the Murphy guy... him and his stoopid law.

later.
nods

Damage Inc NZ

https://www.titaniumpaintball.com

[TheDuelist]

Its been awhile since I have read the entier thread so I apologize if this has been brought up before. My brother was out to day with his XMag and he noticed he was having problems with chops. When he took the marker apart he saw the bolt spring had broken. I am pretty sure he was using the cut spring with his level 10. I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem?