** Official Level 10 Problems Thread **

[Duke Henry]

Finally got a SCUBA

O.K., I have acquired a SCUBA and can put in my level 10 tonight.

But, since I am still a MAG newb, I have a really stupid question.

I have put in a 1.0 carrier, no shims, and the stock spring as suggested to start off.

Now, when I air up the marker air comes pouring out of the barrel. Now, I rechecked my carrier and it really is the best choice. The 1.0 is pretty snug, whereas the 1.5 just slides off. The .5 is really tough to get off.

So, I should also state that my velocity has to be really high. I had previously cranked it up, and if I keep cranking it up I notice that my leak does get much weaker. However, I have begun to see the thread on the back adjuster, and I don't want the thing flying out on me either!

It is not leaking out of the back, but if I keep turning it, can I damage the gun?

Also, when I get it to the point where it stops leaking, pulling the trigger does NOTHING.

Any help would be much appreciated.

[slateman]

A couple problems...

My lvl 10 seems really loud, like I'm firing with the stock bolt and stuff. Is this normal?

Second: When I install and test the carrier pack I hear a very slight leak. I have to put my ear right up to the hole in the powerfeed to hear it. I went down to the smallest carrier (the one with no grooves, right?) and I still heard it. It's almost completly inaudiable at a distance of over 1 foot. Is this normal?


Edit: I just realized that my tank has 800-900 psi left. Is this an issue?

[Havoc_online]

Duke Henry if you can see threading, you might be turning down the velocity.(I assume it's a RT/Emag valve and not an A.I.R. valve)...remember clockwise is higher velocity.....counter clockwise is lower velocity...(I'd put 2 shims)

slateman you may have a bad o'ring if it leaks with the zero carrier, I'd just start over with a new o'ring. It shouldnt leak.

[Duke Henry]

Oh god - what a blunder! Man I feel embarassed! Note to self - do not work on both Tippmann and Airgun Designs guns in the same night until I remember that they are different!

Thanks

[slateman]

ALright. I switched the O-rings and got it working using the second to smallest carrier. No leaks. i did the next step (the shims, dropped two in and had no leaks. The gun cycled (had to turn up the velocity a bit). So I move to the spring and try the longest one. Air leaks out the back so I move to the "middle one" (the one that's been cut, right?) same thing happens. What now?

[Havoc_online]

you know to use the biggest carrier that doesnt leak right?
not the smallest one that works(just checking)..

Use the cut spring, make sure the cut end is on the bolt side, back out the velocity so it doesnt leak, see if it cycles.

[slateman]

OK. The gun works with the stock spring (the copper colored one). I have the largest carrier I can get w/o a leak, and I have two shims. When I switch to one of the other springs, I have to turn up the velocity to high and it stats leaking out the back.

I tried the middle spring both ways and it didn't help. I switched reg. seats and that didn't help.

Any ideas?


P.S. I really apperciate everyone's help.

BlackVCG: You need to replace the piston if it's venting before you can get to 300fps with the middle spring.

[Fluffy_the_Conqueror]

my lvl 10 didn't come with a back washer. would AGD send one or is there a hardware store that you could get it at (i doubt the hardware store has it though).

[kutter]

OK, well I got the bolt to go into my SFL and so I have Lvl 10 set up on both my Micro and SFL, but here is the rub, both of them still chop balls. No matter what configuration I use the bolt comes forward with too much force. I even tried the tightest carriers with the longest springs, I of course got bolt stick, but when it did not stick it was still to strong. So it sounds like I need new regulator pistons for both of them. Is this correct?

Looking for all the help I can get.

[Havoc_online]

slateman what type of barrel are you using? If it's a long ported barrel, that can be hurting you.
Try backing your velocity out a bit and using a stock barrel. that might do the trick.

Fluffy_the_Conqueror I believe you settled everything in another thread.

kutter the bolt doesnt take long to get into second gear, are you sure the first stage is still that hard?

[slateman]

I'm not using a barrel at all. I'm dry firing it w/o one till I can get it to work properly.

[Havoc_online]

you may need a new reg piston.

[slateman]

Yea. I was just talking to Rob on the phone and that what he said. Is there a special High Pressure Piston?

[Havoc_online]

for Classic valve
for RT valve

[kutter]

Yeah, there is no doubt its not working right. I have seen the videos of what it should look like and if I put a squegee about 1/4" in front of it, the bolt definitely strikes the squegee with more force than it should. I will just have to order 2 new RT regulator pistons.