How old is this marker CF02714

[pb bc]

I would appreciate if i found out how old this mag is the serial number is CF02714..... i need to kno before buying it....thanks

[SaS]

my automag is CF22662
it's from 93-95 5-7 years old
i would bet yours is a lot more towards 91 or 90

[pb bc]

does the gun look fine to use and upgrade? will i like it?

[petefol]

looks like it has a 3rd party or a really old valve on it. you may want to upgrade that, and you may also want to upgrade the bolt.

[angelKiller16]

thats a pretty old valve, judging that mine is from 92'ish and it is an CF05240, i would say your is a few years older. What are you going to pay? maybe you can convince him to go lower when you tell him you know how old it is.

[SaS]

i'm still using the stock single trigger, bolt and valve(with the old on/off), grey powerfeed, and even an 11" crown point... that's all 7 years old and still going strong

a Scenario, rec ball, speedball, and a 3man tournament since i got it in may... I've shot about 12000 balls through it this year


... i've tossed on a psycoballistics drop foward... and I'm planning on getting a hyperframe, level 10, j&j 12", ad probably a new sear... mine is pretty worn on it's sides(the sear anyways)

the origonal automag really hasn't changed since 91... or really, at all... just small upgrades along the way...

...a new brass piece on the on/off valve, spacers to replace the power tube spring, Level 10 replaces the bolt and the powertube(spacers too)... oh, and a new powerfeed plug


just mention the age to the seller and they would probably lower the price... it's easily 10years old

[angelKiller16]

one more small change, has been made to autmoags along the way that was not mentioned, the regulator assebly. I had to replace mine along with the on/off top, and powerfeed plug. The newer reg assembly's are able to use HP now when the old ones didn't need to be able to use hp because it wasn't out. This is a total of 23$ of upgrades for the automag over a span of 10yrs, i know because i just bought that stuff.

Oh yah, the newer valves have 6 holes drilled in them where the old ones only had 1. Many owners, like the previus one of my gun, have drilled the extra 5 holes, Whether themselves or by an airsmith.

[SaS]

the CF serial number is laser engraved on both sections of the... whole thing

should be on the right side, down near the rail... should be on the A.I.R. valve and on the air chamber(chamber right? i can't remember just now)
easy way to check if the valve is agd or not... other then the laser egraved automag logo

[athomas]

This valve should be a 91 or 92 vintage mag. I don't see there being a problem with it. Mags last forever.

You'll probably want to get a new style on/off top and get the valve back drilled so that the hole from back to front lines up. You also may need a new regulator piston assembly if you want to use HPA.

Then get a level 10 bolt upgrade to complete the package and you're ready to rock.

Take into consideration the parts that need to be upgraded when figuring the price. Try to talk the owner into lowering the price based on this information.

Good luck.

[PyRo]

The on-off top does not need to be replaced. It offers NO preformance increase. It was only changed, because people where putting it in upside down too often. The new one can go in either way, but works the same as the old one. It is a level 7, so the valve holes should line up, and the reg should be fine for HPA.

[athomas]

Originally posted by PyRo
It is a level 7, so the valve holes should line up, and the reg should be fine for HPA.

On the older level 7 valves, the holes didn't always line up. That's when the after market valve backs started showing up in the industry. They actually did make a difference. The newer valves have holes that line up, so new valve backs won't make any difference.

The reg assemblies of older valves may be weakened during age and possibly not as strong as the newer ones. It is quite probable that a new reg piston assy won't be needed, but a person just has to be aware that it may require one, especially if you want to install a level 10 bolt.