I know it's been asked before but, what's the recharge rate on the standard valve?

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  • the electrician
    Registered User
    • Jan 2002
    • 542

    #1

    I know it's been asked before but, what's the recharge rate on the standard valve?

    I've seen posts that had charge rates on the RT but not the standard valve.
    thanks
    ~E~
  • Havoc_online
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    • Feb 2002
    • 2851

    #2
    about 16CPS with a properly set-up A.I.R. valve. is that what you wanted?
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    • the electrician
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      • Jan 2002
      • 542

      #3
      not really

      that gives an overall cycle time but not recharge time needed before the sear can be actuated again.
      thanks for the input though.
      ~E~

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      • Havoc_online
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        • Feb 2002
        • 2851

        #4
        32ms
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        • the electrician
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          • Jan 2002
          • 542

          #5
          32msec? where did you come up with this info if you don't mind my asking?
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          • Rabidus
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            • Sep 2002
            • 76

            #6
            Well, if you know the recharge time for the RT, and it's posted everywhere that the recharge time for the RT over the classic valve is 5X's....well take the recharge time for the RT valve and divide it by 5....poof, there's your answer!

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            • Rabidus
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              • Sep 2002
              • 76

              #7
              Oops, i mean multiply it by 5!

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              • BlackVCG
                Grubby Owner

                • Oct 2000
                • 4956

                #8
                Roughly 120ms. Yes, this is correct.
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                • Havoc_online
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                  • Feb 2002
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                  #9
                  LOL I was way off! I guess I shoulda put a question mark next to my number, I pm'ed him and told him it was a estimation with quick math, told him how I came up with it, next time I'll wait for black, lol.
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                  • BlackVCG
                    Grubby Owner

                    • Oct 2000
                    • 4956

                    #10
                    The RT valve recharge is a stated 23ms. Like Rabidus said, it's 5 times faster than the stock valve, so this puts our AIR valve recharge rate up around 115-120ms.

                    The AIR valve will easily do 16bps with about a 10fps drop.
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                    • Rabidus
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                      • Sep 2002
                      • 76

                      #11
                      I knew having a college degree would do something!

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                      • the electrician
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                        • Jan 2002
                        • 542

                        #12
                        Yikes! I was thinkin' twice as long. man that's a long time for such a fast shooting gun. those numbers make for alot lower bps. but you say 16 bps is possible with only a 10 fps drop off. if you take 115 msec and add say, 15 msec for discharge, that's about 7.7 bps. so you double it and it only gets a 10 fps drop off? so at 12 bps maybe you would only get a 5 fps drop off?

                        would increasing input psi to the gun have any effect on the recharge rate?
                        ~E~

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                        • BlackVCG
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                          • Oct 2000
                          • 4956

                          #13
                          Since the RT recharges off of input pressure, the recharge rate of the valve will be affected, but in the AIR valve the air is regulated before it goes into the dump chamber, so recharge rate really doesn't matter.
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