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  • JadedT
    Registered User
    • Oct 2002
    • 1018

    #76
    leak

    I have two leaks. One at the fill nipple, which I will need to teflon tape once the bottle is empty, but the other is between the regulator and the tank itself. Will strap wretches be able to solve the problem by tightening reg and tank or is there an oring or anything else that will solve the situation? I have lost 150 psi over 4 days. Not much, but would still like to solve the problem. Thank you for the response.
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    • JadedT
      Registered User
      • Oct 2002
      • 1018

      #77
      Any suggestions?

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      • BlackVCG
        Grubby Owner

        • Oct 2000
        • 4956

        #78
        The fill nipple is either leaking around the threads or the actually pin inside is not sealing. Either way, take off the fill nipple, drop out the pin and clean off the o-ring and inside of the fill nipple. Once that's taken care of, use a teflon paste or VERY carefully apply teflon tape to the threads. If you can, get the pink teflon tape for gas lines. That's what AGD uses at the factory.

        If you have a strap wrench and know what you're doing, try tightening it up. If that doesn't fix the leak, send it to AGD.
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        • BlackVCG
          Grubby Owner

          • Oct 2000
          • 4956

          #79
          felony-

          Slow recharge is caused by dirt being caught in the on/off assembly and around the reg. seat and the piston. Clean those areas and you should fix that problem.

          On ALL Flatlines you can unscrew the front regulator body with air in the tank. The on/off cuts off the flow to that portion of the system, so technically you can take it apart with gas in the tank. The ball in the air flow hole from the on/off to the regulator will limit the flow so if you do accidently turn it on with the two halves apart, it won't dump 3000 psi or whatever it has in the tank at you. This is another AGD safety feature. For safety's sake, it is best advised that you degas it before you work on it.
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          • JadedT
            Registered User
            • Oct 2002
            • 1018

            #80
            Thanks for the reply!

            Appreciate the response. Watched this thread get buried over the last several days. Glad I bumped it up for you to see it. Hard part is finding a store with strap wrenches. Tried three already. They only have ones with bicycle chains, but no rubber straps.

            Just to be sure, the regulator unscrews counter-clockwise from the bottle?
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            • damageinc54
              Machinist
              • Oct 2001
              • 1324

              #81
              BlackVCG, I have one for you. My 4500 flatline on/off is not working. I turn the tank to the off position and it does not turn off. Still has full output pressure. How do I fix this? I have taken the reg apart and found no noticable problems.
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              • BlackVCG
                Grubby Owner

                • Oct 2000
                • 4956

                #82
                JadedT- Yes, it is right-hand thread.

                Damage- Does your on/off assembly have all of the parts in place? When you turn the on/off does it have resistance. Drain the tank and take out the on/off shaft. Now, you should see a brass piece in the hole closer to the tank that will shake out. Now there should be a brass pin sticking out. Push down on that with a small allen wrench or something similar and it should spring back. Take a pair of fine needle nose pliers and lift up on that brass stem and out with it will come the on/off o-ring. Make sure that o-ring is good and replace as needed. As long as the o-ring is good and you have spring force on the brass stem piece and the other brass piece is in there, it should work.
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                • VIKING
                  Registered User
                  • Jun 2002
                  • 3

                  #83
                  Anyone know where I can purchase reg seats for the 4500 flatline. AGD does not have any and will not be getting any soon.

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                  • Brunno
                    Registered User
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 262

                    #84
                    i have a question if anyone could help me out here. my 68/3000 flatline tank is not working correctly. It is not always happening is the worse part about it. i will attach the fill nipple to female air and about half the time my fill nipple will start to leak for no reason. other times it holds the air in and is fine, i have oiled and cleaned the insides of the nipple and made sure no skuffs were on it but it will just slowly leak air out of the nipple till the tank is empty? thanks
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                    • BlackVCG
                      Grubby Owner

                      • Oct 2000
                      • 4956

                      #85
                      What style fill nipple do you have? There's ones with a really long cylinder with an o-ring on the end and then there's ones that have a square base with an o-ring on it and then it has a tip that comes to a point.

                      The second option is the better design, but either way, you should replace that o-ring.
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                      • Scircal
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 56

                        #86
                        OKay, on my 68/45 FL, how much bouncing should my output be doing? Mine drops about 100 for each shot I take, then recharges back to the set pressure. Not a problem when I'm firing relatively slowly, but in rapid fire, I can prevent it from recharging all the way. I've cleaned and oiled the internals. Do I need to replace the reg seat?

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                        • BlackVCG
                          Grubby Owner

                          • Oct 2000
                          • 4956

                          #87
                          The gauge will always bounce. Unless you see a physical drop off in your shots, then it's doing fine.

                          If you do replace the reg. seat, you'll get one of the white seats from AGD and to replace that you need to put the end with the small taper in the center hole facing away from the pocket on the front half of the reg. body. Push the seat against the flat surface of a table and then drop the piston in from the back side. Push in on the piston with big allen wrench that will fit the hole in the back. Push hard enough and you'll hear the piston stem "pop" into the seat. Lift the reg. body off the table and holding the seat with one hand and pushing on the piston with the other, you'll get the piston stem fully seated on the seat.
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                          • bina227
                            Minimag
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 88

                            #88
                            Awesome sticky!

                            I just bought a flatline and opened it up and it was filthy...I cleaned it with confidence because of this thread... thanks guys.

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                            • Raven4000SX
                              Jewie's Clone
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 246

                              #89
                              I just got a used Flatline today and it seems to shoot my X-Valve fine but the needle on the output guage moves on every shot. Is that normal or is the output pressure fluctuating? I have the lock ring tightened down. Maybe I need to rebuild the reg? If I need a rebuild, should I just buy a RT parts kit? I only want the Flatline parts, not the extra ones in the RT parts kit. (I know that for 3000 psi Flatlines the o-rings are the same for the RT Mag) Does anyone sell just spare parts for 3K Flatlines?

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                              • SpinDoctor15
                                Registered User
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 59

                                #90
                                I have a 3K/68ci flatline system, and it needs to be hydroed. I can get the upper part of the reg disassembled, and all of the gauges and fittings off. I can't seem to get the on/off stem out of the reg, and I can't unscrew the reg body from the tank itself. I tried using vise grips, but only ended up scratching the reg. Does anyone have any better way to disassemble the tank/reg?? Thanks.
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