Problem with mag, First time using

[i2ush]

Alright I Bought a classic mag standard feed. I dont have a gas through grip or expansion chamber. I just have a front grip. And I shot the gun my first time today. It will shoot like 3-4 times and the gun will shut down like there is no air going through the gun. I am using a 14 oz co2 and it is full. Is it doing this because its freezing up my gun and need n2 for it? Please Help me out im kinda mad right now. thnx.

P.S. I bought this gun used from Extreme Rage PB pro shop.

[johnny dee]

if your not going to have an expansion chamer on your gun, you need hpa. c02 wil freeze your gun as it did mine one time, and i ended up replacing all of the o-rings. but first try changng all the o-rings and putting an expansion chamber on it, if you dont have the money for hpa.

[i2ush]

bah

Bah im having so many problems with this gun right now. First my gun wouldtn shoot after the 3rd shot. Now its leaking. What does HPA mean?

[Blazingace]

Your really need an Expansion chamber and/or a remote coil. That is what I ran on mine to start with and it ran fine. It is laeking because the o-rings froze up. Oil the gun and at least try to keep the tank with the front facing up. Otherwise liquid CO2 will enter the valve and freeze the o-rings.

[i2ush]

Hey man

Hey man thnx for your help. Glad to see people out there helping new owners. Anyways im getting a n2 Tank tomorrow will that solve my problems?

[i2ush]

By the way

Since i bought the gun used i dont have a manual or nothing. Do they have a diagram or something on here to know where to oil your gun? thnx

[Blazingace]

You can download and print all AGD manuals off the airgun.com wedsite under technical. N2 will solve most of your problems. It is the single best upgrade you can buy no matter what gun you shoot. It is so much more consistant and easier on the o-rings compared to CO2.

http://www.airgun.com/manual.shtml

the link for technical.

[Dayspring]

As for where to oil- just put a few oil drops in the ASA (where you screw your tank) and then put the tank on.

Fire it about 20 times and you're golden. (Take off the barrel first. Don't want any oily buildup inside.

Also- HPA means High Pressure Air.

HPA=N2=Nitro=Compressed Air

[i2ush]

So you .

So you guys are saying when i get my n2 tank in couple days my gun wont only shoot for three shots and shut down like nothing is going through? Is there another thing that might be wrong with it so i can get it now. Because when i shoot it i will shoot for about 3 times and that little rod thing behind the trigger will stay back there and the trigger just becomes loose like there is no air going through. any one experinced this?

[xen_100]

does it leak or anything when it does this?

it sounds like the on/off orings are little too tight.

also check your reg piston. if it is hanging up on the off position, then it will not charge the gun when you shoot. that is a long shot, but you never know.

[frost]

dude just take the mag back

[i2ush]

yea

Yea i said my gun leaks already. I think it might be the macro line tthough. I cant take it back i bought it from a store about 6 hours away lol.

[xen_100]

I would just buy a repair kit from AGD and replace all the o-ring in the entire gun. then at least you know you have a clean slate to start with.

[mountainbob84]

similar problem with mag reliability

I purchaced a mag about six months ago, also used and it has had the same problem (or very similar to). I Oil the living heck out of the thing, so I dont think think thats the problem. The On-Off is installed correctly and I recently replaced the reg seat in a desperate attempt to fix the problem. Nothing has worked. The Problem is something like this. I have a mag classic (one star), Smart parts barrell, macroline, expansion chamber and a double trigger and CO2. When I gas the gun up, It works fine for about two to three shots And then the shot consistancy goes to hell, shortly followed by the gun ceasing to work all together. It is not uncommon for there to be an air leak near the back of the regulator, the exact location of which I cannot find as it is between the rail and regulator when the gun is put together (the source has to either the twin holes labled "-oil-" or the On-Off best as I can tell). The leak disapears immediately after the marker is discharged and then slowly gains intensity again. This maybe entirely unrelated to the real problem however.
After several shots the gun locks up and the trigger fails to recharge. The only remidies I have found are to de-gas and then re-gas the gun (rather inconvienient in a fire fight) or (in about 1/3 of the instances this works) give the back of the regulator a hard whack with the palm of my hand. This last bit would indicate to me that something is sticking, but what. I put so much oil through the darn thing it is literally dripping out when I screw the reg apart. Temperature has no bearing on the problem as I have tried it in both hot and cold weather and the result is the same. Whats going on, Mags are supposed to be the most reliable, but even my friend's cocker doesn't gripe so much.

[Mook564]

Originally posted by xen_100
I would just buy a repair kit from AGD and replace all the o-ring in the entire gun. then at least you know you have a clean slate to start with.

I agree with this one, a fresh start with all new o-rings is the place to start. After that if it still leaks out the back I would try a new spring pack.