X-Mag Solenoid problem or L10?

[BetaMax]

In E-Mode

Using the shortest spring from the L10 kit, it fires fine. I switched to the longest spring and re-adjusted the velocity to 280fps and I can fire a few shots and then all I hear is clicking. I put it in hybrid and have to pull the trigger in full and get it to fire once then I can fire in Hybrid or E-Mode again for a few shots then the solenoid clicks. I would have to switch it back to hybrid and make a full trigger pull again. So basicly I would have to fire in Hybrid.


I take out the longest spring and put back in the shortest spring and re-adjust the velocity to 280 and I can shoot fine again. No probs.. I put back in the longest spring and re-adjust to 280 and I can fire a few times and then nothing but clicks.

I have not tried the Red spring yet. I am sure this is the middle spring, tho it looks and has the same tension as the long spring. I will see how this works..

Anyone else have this issue? Similar if not the same issue that this person is having.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=102606&highlight=clicking+solenoid

[ChucktheMAGician]

I would go ahead and try the red spring, it is the middle one in terms of resistance. You might want to try the next larger carrier also, as suggested by BlackVCG in the post you listed, if the red spring gives you trouble. If the red spring works, I'd leave it there. I run the middle spring in mine and haven't had a chop yet :)

[BetaMax]

Welp, the red spring doesn't work. I still can only fire a few times and then click. It is like the solenoid does not have enough power to push the on/off pin. I have changed carrier o-rings. It was at 1. I tried 2 but it leaked and now am on 1.5 with 2 shims. No leaks. I try the red spring again and same results.

Now have done the following. I took my Emag valve and put it into my X-Mag and my X-mag valve and put it into my E-Mag.

I then put in the longest spring on the X-Valve in my E-mag and then adjusted the velocity. My E-Mag has no problems firing the X-Valve with the longest spring.

Now on my X-Mag with the E-Mag valve, I put on the red spring and I get the same results as before.. I can fire a few times and then nothing but clicks. I can only get the marker to work on the shortest spring only.

I hate to use the shortest spring since it hits the ball to hard if it missfeeds.

Any ideas? I am guessing I might need to send it in.

[BetaMax]

rubber baby retro bumpers.

[Halliday]

When was the last time you charged the battery? Maybe.... :)

[BetaMax]

I had charged that battery prior to playing for about 5 hours.

I even tried my E-Mag battery just for kicks.. same result.

[Tunaman]

You must start with the smallest spring and work from there. If you cant get it to work with the small spring it will never work with the longer springs. Take out the shims...you dont need them.

[BetaMax]

Originally posted by Tunaman
You must start with the smallest spring and work from there. If you cant get it to work with the small spring it will never work with the longer springs. Take out the shims...you dont need them.

It works with the smallest spring. But the thing is, I am going for a softer impact on the ball using the longer spring. I am chopping balls with the shortest spring atm, which is why I wanted to go with the longer spring to see if that helps.. But in doing so, All I get is mostly clicks from the solenoid.

I'll take out the shims and give that a shot..

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up the velocity?

[Tunaman]

Thats right...if you go to a larger spring you will have to up the velocity, and the range (of velocity) will be greatly diminished. 95 percent of all the mags I see everyday work real good with the short spring. It is not too easy to get one working with the longest spring.

[BetaMax]

Thats the thing, I put the medium spring in, 1 shim. I fire a couple of times, goto the chrony and then get it to 280 feet p/s. Now after that, I go out into the field and start to play with it, it will fire for a few times but then click, click. I can put it into hybrid/manual mode and I can fire that way making a full pull the first time but then the E side of the hybrid will work again until I stop shooting. Then when I want to fire again, click click, unless I make a full pull in hybrid/manual, then the E side will work again untill I stop shooting.

That is the main thing that is troubling me. That first shot after shooting a string of shots will not fire in E-mode unless I go into hybrid/manual and fire once, then move it back to e-mode or leave it in hybrid/manual and I can keep firing until I stop.

BUT if I goto the smallest spring and 1 shim, and bring the velocity to 280, it works fine. (though I tend to chop balls.)

I hope I am making sense.

[funkmunky56]

one other thing... check your solenoid plunger/threaded rod assy. if it's not perfectly straight, it'll do exactly what you're talking about. I had the exact same symptoms as you, and when I pulled the grip off, the threaded rod was SLIGHTLY bent right at the plunger. I stuck an allen key in there, and levered at it just a lil bit... fixed the problem completely. :-) --Dave

[BetaMax]

Originally posted by funkmunky56
one other thing... check your solenoid plunger/threaded rod assy. if it's not perfectly straight, it'll do exactly what you're talking about. I had the exact same symptoms as you, and when I pulled the grip off, the threaded rod was SLIGHTLY bent right at the plunger. I stuck an allen key in there, and levered at it just a lil bit... fixed the problem completely. :-) --Dave

I'll look into that as well. Thanks.

[paintpiggie]

dude. oil your on/off pin and assembly. xmags love oil.

im talkin MUCHO oil.

as simple as it sounds, it keeps my xmag in tip-top
working condition. :)

[BetaMax]

Originally posted by paintpiggie
dude. oil your on/off pin and assembly. xmags love oil.

im talkin MUCHO oil.

as simple as it sounds, it keeps my xmag in tip-top
working condition. :)

I made sure it was oiled. That was the first thing I did when I started.