x-mag is not shooting in E-mode

[Korrosion]

The darn thing works fine in manual, the battery is fully charged, and tested ok with a volt meter. The eye is set to 0. I can hear and see the solenoid try to move down when I pull the trigger, but it does not actually move more then just a little twitch. I'm stumped on what could make it act like this. Any suggestions?

[Dayspring]

Make sure the on/off pin assembly & orings in the valve are sufficiently lubed. You'd be surprised how much friction those suckers will give.

After that, my guess is that your solenoid plunger is out of spec.

[deadeye9]

Dayspring: I'm confused -- shouldn't the on/off pin work the same in both E-mode and M-mode?

[Remington]

I would try backing your trigger away from the HES, it sounds like your trigger is too close. Good luck, and let us know what works!

[Korrosion]

I've oiled the o-rings in the on/off (took it out and lubed them by hand as well as through a few drops in the input on the side of the valve). By the plunger being out of spec do you mean bent? Ive checked that and it looks straigt. I know the hes is not to far in because it tries to shoot, it adds a cycle to the shot counter and the plunger moves a tiny bit, but thats it. Thanks for the quick reply's. Any more suggestions?

[deadeye9]

Remove the valve assembly. Use you finger to depress the back of the sear assemby like the on/off pin would do. Fire the marker keeping your finger pressed down to return the plunger to the up position. If this works, you could have a battery problem, even though it reads fine with a voltmeter, it may not work under a load.

[Korrosion]

replacing the on/off with my finger made it "work" like normal, yay . So that means it a problem with the...? ON/off???

[Korrosion]

I took the on/off out, put some oil on the flat black o-ring that up in there, put some oil on the on/off pin, and just generally oiled the (cant say cause of swear filter) out of everything. Then I put it back to geather, gassed it up, turned it on, and it shot like a champ. Twice. Whats this mean? I'm guessing I'll need to replace an o-ring but which one? Thanks for the help dayspring, and deadeye. I appreciate it.

[deadeye9]

Could be the on/off. The solenoid is not pulling hard enough to overcome the force that the on/off pin is exerting on the end of the sear assembly. Either this downforce is too much (an on/off problem) or the pull force is not great enough (a battery or solenoid problem). Remove the on/off assembly and see how the pin slides through the hole (oil the pin and hole liberally).

[Korrosion]

The pin is reluctant to slide through the hole. I oiled everything liberally and no change in the resistance of the pin moving through the hole. I reassembeled things and it would shoot very intermitenly (sp?) in e-mode. manual was fine. This makes me think its an on/off problem since it did work occasionaly in e mode. All my posts seem to end with me being confused... Thanks again.

[deadeye9]

You might want to unsrew the on/off assembly to see what's binding the pin. Check the small on/off o-ring that's inside the top part.

[Korrosion]

I unscrewed the on/off and replaced the inner oring (with the addition of lots of lube) and still no dice. If I gently push down on the plunger as I pull the trigger it will shoot. Then it might be good for another shot or two in e mode but then thats it. With the new o-ring in the on/off it seems to slide smother and easier when I move the pin by hand. If it helps this problem developed over the course of a day of play, not all of a sudden. Any more ideas?

[RRfireblade]

Pull the valve out of the gun,with the left grip panel off and the rest of the gun assembled,run the soleniod plunger in and out with your finger (or a needle nose)as far as it will go and see if it runs smoothly or if it binds even the slightest bit.If it binds,you need to try and determine on which side it rubs and then 'gently' bend the plunger rod in the correct direction so that it no longer rubs.

If that's the prob.

[Korrosion]

Originally posted by RRfireblade
Pull the valve out of the gun,with the left grip panel off and the rest of the gun assembled,run the soleniod plunger in and out with your finger (or a needle nose)as far as it will go and see if it runs smoothly or if it binds even the slightest bit.If it binds,you need to try and determine on which side it rubs and then 'gently' bend the plunger rod in the correct direction so that it no longer rubs.

If that's the prob.

tried it, couldn't find any binding at all, in fact I wish the ram on my cocker was that smooth

[deadeye9]

Charge up the battery for at least 6 hours, regardless of the green LED. I've never tried this but, hook up two 9 volt batteries in series to get 18V. This would require some wire and wire strippers. Don't know if they would provide enough current to trip the solenoid. Also, make sure the plunger is clean and the inside of the solenoid is clean. The length from the tip of the plunger to the top of the pivot point should be 3.005 in. If you don't have a micrometer, compare the number of exposed threads with the picture: