Got new Emag & I must say...not impressed. help me!

[anxiouspaintblr]

Ok well, my Emag came today which I bought used, so after rumaging through all the little bits of styrafoam (sp?) I finaly found all the pieces. 3 barrels all quite scrathed, the gun not in the worst conditon but not perfect either, and a few other misc parts.

This however this not really what makes me un-impressed what does is the feel of the trigger. Also the fact that it weighs even more than what AGD said, they said 3.1 pounds or something like that. I measured it with out anything but the gun and it came to over 4 pounds. Then to top it all of after taking a few shots it started to leak! So I'm not loving it to much right at the moment but I am willing to give it a shot which is why I am posting here.

So....as far as the trigger goes IT'S HEAVY! I know how to switch between modes and I was on "E". AGD should not be effected by the patent cause its hardly an electronic trigger! I have to push the some metal thing in! Is this right? to me that seems wrong, that's what I would excpect for the manual trigger but not this. I'll post as pic as soon as possible.

ok so is that little metal piece I'm pointing to have to be pressed in for me to fire?

The leak? I have no clue the only thing I can think of is this. My tank is adjustable and the gun said >right on it< 600-800 psi, so that is what I set it to. So I thought it may be a possibility that there wasnt enought strenght to....well do whatever it is that the gun has to do. Now I am out of air though so cant try anything you guys may suggest.

The software version is 1.37 ask anything else you want to know. Also I have AIM and MSN and can talk there.

[verypoormagowner]

First of all since you bought the gun used you shoudnt be complaining that the gun sucks and what not. Did u research emags any before you got them? Download teh manual off airgun.com Im not very familiar with emags but i do know the trigger pull is adjustable. The leak is prolly just do to a abd oring. Does the gun have level 10? If so you may need to tune the level 10.

[Dayspring]

If the gun's in E mode, it won't touch the trigger rod at all. (At least it shouldn't if it's in spec)

Is the battery charged and the yellow pin out?

Have you tuned the trigger weight and pull length at all?

[anxiouspaintblr]

I did plenty of research, I downloaded the manual, and no all the o rings are good.

[lautt]

for the trigger weight.....take off some magnets in the frame. it will make it lighter

[anxiouspaintblr]

If the gun's in E mode, it won't touch the trigger rod at all. (At least it shouldn't if it's in spec)

Is the battery charged and the yellow pin out?

Have you tuned the trigger weight and pull length at all?

yeah thats what i thought about the not touching the trigger, yes the yellow rod was out, and i dont know how to fine tune or do anything to the trigger and i didnt see it anywhere in the manual stating how to do it.

[deathstalker]

Your sig is over 90k!

But yes, download the manual, see if you can find the video online, and you can understand/fix the problems you're having.

Really quickly though, in E mode, the trigger does not hit the sear. You can adjust the pull length and weight very easily.

If the pull is heavy, you can remove magnets to lighten it. There are several threads on AO on adjusting the trigger. There's probably a thread on the first page of the tech forum that has a link to it.

[anxiouspaintblr]

errr not if I'm still hitting the rod. but yeah the trigger weight when im jsut pullin it in the air is fine, when i start to shoot is when it gets harder.

[gibby]

The leak could be cause the Orings might be dry? Does it have level 10? Oil up the valve by putting a few drops of oil in the asa before gassing up. The metal rod you're pointing at is the trigger rod that is used in Manual mode. Otherwise, E mode uses the magnetic trigger...check out the back of the trigger, you'll notice a small, circular magnet. In E mode, when that magnet comes close to the HES sensor, it triggers the solenoid/plunger inside the trigger frame. The trigger rod in E mode moves before hitting the back. Also, in a properly tuned trigger, E mode will stop the back of the trigger from even hitting the trigger rod.

It's all about learning how to tune that trigger. Don't be disappointed with the Emag after gassing it up for the first time. Through proper trigger adjustments, making sure there's no bolt stick in the power tube or making sure the level 10 is tuned, you'll have a great time with it.

Also, send that baby into AGD to get flashed to 3.2! It will be a different beast that will keep up with anything out there. Make sure you get a hopper that will keep up with it too. Good luck and don't worry...be happy!

Edit: Here's a few links that might help

Level 10 FAQs: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43538

Emag Trigger Adjustment: http://www.automags.org/forums/showt...threadid=83104

[ghideon]

errr not if I'm still hitting the rod. but yeah the trigger weight when im jsut pullin it in the air is fine, when i start to shoot is when it gets harder.

The little metal piece is the trigger rod. In pure mechanical mode, this is what the trigger has to actuate against in order for the marker to fire. In mech/hybrid modes, it also pushes the trigger rod back out (aka reactive).

In pure e-mode (battery pin out, mode select switch to E), you're still having to actuate against the trigger rod, you need to adjust the trigger. The gun's not broken or anything, just misconfigured. In e-mode, the solenoid is what pushes the sear, not you pushing against the trigger rod.

Here's the thread on E-Mag trigger adjustments:

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83104

[anxiouspaintblr]

THANK YOU for the link. I was prety sure that it should be like that, however with the way it is you get some mad trigger bounce :P

[the larch]

Ooof. Poor e-mag.

[WARPED1]

As Douglas Adams said: "Don't panic!"

[Timmee]

yeah thats what i thought about the not touching the trigger, yes the yellow rod was out, and i dont know how to fine tune or do anything to the trigger and i didnt see it anywhere in the manual stating how to do it.

you can fine tune the weight of the trigger by taking your frame off, and removing some of the neodynium magnets that are above the trigger. Currently with mine, there is an oring at the bottom of the magnet hole, and one magnet above that (the oring spaces the magnets apart, so the trigger pull is very light).

Adjusting the trigger pull length is done by adjusting the magnet at the rear of the trigger, and adjusting the setscrew in the selector switch (again, the grip frame will have to be off the marker when the setscrew is adjusted).

I'd post pictures showing the locations I mentioned, but my digital camera is currently broken.

[Lohman446]

If you are hving to depress that trigger rod to get it to fire the gun is not firing in mechanical mode - the rod is all the way out of my e-mag. Dont panic, there are ltos of people who can make that gun sweet for you