HUGE PROBLEM: Tank+to much pressure+gun wont fire= how to release PSI?

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  • _KFC_Chicken_
    WashingtonStatePaintball. c
    • Feb 2004
    • 616

    #1

    HUGE PROBLEM: Tank+to much pressure+gun wont fire= how to release PSI?

    All fixed + much much more :)

    The valve on/off was put together wrong, and I just unscrewed a guage to release pressure.

    All good now, and its insane!

    Im finally a happy mag owner.



















    Ok so I just get this micro emag and I test it(dead battery) on mech mode, seems fine. I got this X-valve so I throw it on, the on/off assembly was sticking out a little so I sorta shoved it in and put the valve in, not think to check it b4 putting 2k PSI in the tank, So I now have a huge problem

    So now Im thinking I dont have enough input, so I take it to 1k input try a few more things, run the X-valve adjustment all the way in, nothing. So I then look at the valve again, and now have over 1200+ PSI into the gun. WITH NO WAY TO BLEED AIR PRESSURE!!!!!

    The tank has so much pressure on the threads I cant turn it al all.

    Its an armageddon tank system.

    No clue what so ever how to drain it. It has macroline air fittings.


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    Last edited by _KFC_Chicken_; 08-18-2004, 08:29 PM. Reason: Problem fixed
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  • eNder159
    buy a mag ...the END
    • Mar 2004
    • 523

    #2
    ehhhhh how the hell did you get the armaggedon to 2k psi???? well this is what i do i turn the input pressure all the way down to 0...and then i fire the gun until it doesnt want to fire...but in your case it seems as if its not firing at all...hmmmm ....my suggestion is ...punch a small hole into the macro line if you get desperate....and bleed it that way...although i would take precaution...somebody on AO should back me up first before you try that


    Oh you got an anti chop bolt? Put your toungue in there and prove it to me.


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    • wantamag
      Rec Poster
      • Mar 2003
      • 5055

      #3
      sory i dont kow e-mags much but u cant put it in mech mdoe or anything? and sitn there some sort of safety feature for this sort of thing? like if u take the tank of isnt it a regulate release of air?

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      • eNder159
        buy a mag ...the END
        • Mar 2004
        • 523

        #4
        well since its an armaggedon..you can turn it all the way downt o 0psi input...that should cut off the air from the tank to the gun...but there's still air in the lines + the valve...creating pressure on the tank threads...but ya that's my ghetto way of releasing pressure...like i said have someone back me up on my suggestion before you try it...


        Oh you got an anti chop bolt? Put your toungue in there and prove it to me.


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        • _KFC_Chicken_
          WashingtonStatePaintball. c
          • Feb 2004
          • 616

          #5
          Seeing I need help hella bad, and I dont want to get banned. I will pretend both of you cant read and are just trying to be nice
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          • chirogator
            Registered User
            • Apr 2004
            • 42

            #6
            possible solution

            try turning you velocity up on the back of the valve, clockwise. that might let it get firing. If not I'd cut the macroline, with gloves, and my mask on (just in case)!

            Good luck! You may want tuna or blackvcg to back me up.
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            • _KFC_Chicken_
              WashingtonStatePaintball. c
              • Feb 2004
              • 616

              #7
              Originally posted by chirogator
              try turning you velocity up on the back of the valve, clockwise. that might let it get firing. If not I'd cut the macroline, with gloves, and my mask on (just in case)!

              Good luck! You may want tuna or blackvcg to back me up.
              Tried turning that all the way in untill it wouldnt go anymore, still nothing.
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              • eNder159
                buy a mag ...the END
                • Mar 2004
                • 523

                #8
                Originally posted by _KFC_Chicken_
                Seeing I need help hella bad, and I dont want to get banned. I will pretend both of you cant read and are just trying to be nice


                ummmm i provided you a solution...and chirogator backed me up..so i dont see why you're complaing????? you said you need to bleed the pressure build up...so cut the damn macro line ..


                Oh you got an anti chop bolt? Put your toungue in there and prove it to me.


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                • smilestyler
                  Ace Dentura

                  • Oct 2002
                  • 975

                  #9
                  How about screwing in the velocity until the regulator seat leaks and lets everything bleed off that way.

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                  • _KFC_Chicken_
                    WashingtonStatePaintball. c
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 616

                    #10
                    I dont think you want to cut a macroline with 1200+ PSI in it, the guages is to where 1400 or more would be if it was marked.

                    I know your trying to help, but I have thought about that, and then decided not to with that much pressure in the hose.


                    Maybe someone who has cut a hose with this much pressure in it, will see this and tell me what to expect if I do it?
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                    • paint magnet
                      Member # 10,261
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 2488

                      #11
                      Well, good thing mag valves are rated to 3000 PSI...

                      Honestly, the only way I can think of to get the pressure out of the gun is to cut the macroline - I'm not sure how much longer it's going to stand 1200 psi in it anyway before it blows (it ain't the sturdiest stuff, you know). So while I can't be held responsible for your personal injury or any damage that may incur to anything, I'd put on some sort of protective gear, take it out in the yard, and cut the macroline with a pair of hedge trimmers or something so you can stay a good distance away from it. Be prepared though, it will likely be loud and send stuff flying, but it will drain the pressure. Yeah, it sounds stupid, but do you have a better idea?

                      EDIT - I've never cut a pressurized hose, but I've had macroline blow out on me on its own at lower pressures. Which is why I'd put it somewhere where it won't hurt anything, I think braided stainless steel hose is rated at about a thousand psi and macroline can't be as strong as it is. (It would most likely pop out of a fitting)
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                      • _KFC_Chicken_
                        WashingtonStatePaintball. c
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 616

                        #12
                        Originally posted by smilestyler
                        How about screwing in the velocity until the regulator seat leaks and lets everything bleed off that way.

                        I went all the way in untill it started to grind and stopped, it didnt leak like my old mag when I went all the way in. What happens if you back out all the way?
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                        • wantamag
                          Rec Poster
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 5055

                          #13
                          ive pulled off a quic disconnect with 450 psi in it and it wasnt pretty i acnt suggest doing it with 1k_ psi in the gun thats asking fro trouble

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                          • eNder159
                            buy a mag ...the END
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 523

                            #14
                            alright so do this...take the macro line in your hand..and cut it ...with the macroline in your hand it wont go flipping around...itll just cause a reallly loud sound...dood man that's ur only option because your mag wont fire...so you can drain the air that way....

                            do it like this

                            1) turn off the tank...set the input to 0psi
                            2) hold macro line valve end
                            3) cut the macro line ...and just hold it...there's approximately 1200 psi to bleed ...

                            what's the worse macro line can do when its clamped down by your hand..


                            Oh you got an anti chop bolt? Put your toungue in there and prove it to me.


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                            • smilestyler
                              Ace Dentura

                              • Oct 2002
                              • 975

                              #15
                              Ok, I just gassed up my marker to 900psi, and then shut the tank off. I then bled the entire gun by pressing the coller down on the macroline fitting. But I would be very careful cause you are obviously dealing with much higher pressure. If you are unsure I would email Tuna or somebody like that.

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